On 8/28/07, Daniel R. Tobias <dan(a)tobias.name> wrote:
On 28 Aug 2007 at 14:57:16 -0700, "George
Herbert"
<george.herbert(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Either the system works... we are mostly
honorable people, and have
enough honest and principled people that if something seriously
sinister started someone would stand up and publically announce it and
call for it to end.
...and get labeled a "troll", his messages summarily deleted as
trolling, and eventually he gets banned, then any subsequent person
who expresses similar ideas gets labeled a "sockpuppet" and banned
too, even more summarily. And the clique pats themselves on the back
for defeating another bad guy.
None of these things have happened to Cyde.
A lot of this is in AGF - if it's someone "we know" who believes
there's an issue, even if they turn out to be wrong, they won't
generally be taken to be trying to "just stir shit up".
We don't AGF about a lot of people who have dissapointed the
community, to the point that it's hard for them to make legitimate
reasonable criticisms in many venues now. That is clearly a legit
problem.
--
-george william herbert
george.herbert(a)gmail.com