Please stop playing the aggrieved victim, Jay.
You've been a strongly
partisan editor on pages relating to Israel for quite some time, and you've
played a prominent role in the near-complete degeneration of civility on the
pages in question. Protestations of innocence aren't going to fool anyone,
at this stage.
CJ
On 8/2/07, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This seems like a particularly unwarranted personal attack; I'm
surprised it wasn't moderated.
On 8/2/07, Steven Walling <steven.walling(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Nope, Jayjg is a rabid editor on Israeli subjects
all on his own. No
paid
lobby is required.
On 8/1/07, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/2/07, Hello all <wikipedian51(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > The point is there is a concerted effort by an organization funded
by
> the
> > Israeli foreign ministry to manipulate wikipedia.
> >
> > Moreover, when Hasbara Fellowships asks people to "join the team" I
read
> it
> > as indicating not that a team of POV-pushers is about to descend on
> > wikipedia but that they are already here and have been for some
time.
> >
> > Anyone even casually familiar with articles on Israel, the
Palestinians
> and
> > their conflict has seen concerted POV pushing and edit warring by a
> small
> > group of editors and it's completely logical to assume that some of
> these
> > editors are with Hasbara or some other pro-Israel lobby group.
> >
> > It's also quite logical to assume that a more skilled lobbyist
trying to
> > manipulate and influence wikipedia
would learn how to play the game
and
> rise
> > to a position such as Admin or higher and use his or her position to
his
> > employer's advantage.
> >
> > The clear leader of the pro-Israel group of editors on Wikipeida is
> Jayjg,
> > an admin who has been "reminded" or "admonished" on several
occasions
> for
> > edit warring and an admin who recently got another editor,
> > PalestineRemembered, banned based on a false accusation.
> >
> > As a security precaution shouldn't we be asking Jayjg to state
whether
> or
> > not he is associated with Hasbara Fellowships, AishHatora, AIPAC or
any
> > other pro-Israel lobby group? Given his
track record of edit warring
> > shouldn't someone review his use of Oversight and CheckUser to
ensure he
> > hasn't used these features for
political reasons? Should someone who
has
> > been warned, "reminded" or
admonished on several occasions for edit
> warring
> > continue to hold these administrative positions indefinitely without
> review?
> >
> > If it comes out that Jayjg is Hasbara Fellowship's "team leader"
on
> > wikipedia or is associated in some way with an organized and funded
> lobby it
> > will be yet another scandal of essjay like proportions that will
shake
> > confidence in Wikipedia. We should take
preventative measures now
rather
> > than look the other way and let the
media uncover our skeletons for
us.
>
Hi User:Shia1. I'm not sure how long you plan to keep flogging this
conspiracy theory; you've been trying to get someone to bite since
late June, I believe. For the record, I'm not associated with or paid
by any pro-Israel lobby group, including Hasbara fellowships.
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