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9 Nov 2009 9 Nov '09

6:20 p.m.

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But they say that mediawiki user right management is not enough powerful for us.

And the are right to say that. "MediaWiki is not designed to be a CMS, or to protect sensitive data. To the contrary, it was designed to be as open as possible. Thus it does not inherently support full featured, air-tight protection of private content. But with the massive increase of MediaWiki use in corporate intranets and the many CMS-like features emerging, demand for tighter security is emerging." (Quote from "Security issues with authorization extensions") http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_extensions What happens if security is not tight enough? Is security important in your intranet? Regards Claus

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Daniel Barrett

9 Nov 9 Nov

6:39 p.m.

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> But they say that mediawiki user right management is not enough powerful for us.

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And they are right to say that. ("MediaWiki is not designed to be a CMS, or to protect sensitive data....)

Well... they're correct that MediaWiki's rights management isn't very powerful, but it might still be powerful "enough" for many uses. In a typical corporation, a tremendous amount of information does not need to be access-controlled. Wikis are excellent for this kind of information. Additionally, there is information that people THINK needs to be access-controlled, but doesn't really need it. If you educate people about the MediaWiki "watch" feature -- that people can be notified instantly if someone messes with their articles -- that may be enough to satisfy people. Finally, you have the small amount of information that truly needs tight access control: legal documents, financial documents, Human Resources official policies, etc. Buy a heavyweight CMS for that, and use lightweight MediaWiki for the rest! DanB

nevio carlos de alarcão

7:22 p.m.

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Hey guys, sorry, but what does CMS stand for, I mean what's it? Here at Banco do Brasil, the bigger financial company of latin america, security is paramount. We are dealing well with that teaching people to use the watch features, as it was said. respecfully 2009/11/9 Daniel Barrett <danb(a)vistaprint.com>

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> But they say that mediawiki user right management is not enough powerful

for us.

And they are right to say that. ("MediaWiki is not designed to be a CMS,

or to protect sensitive data....) Well... they're correct that MediaWiki's rights management isn't very powerful, but it might still be powerful "enough" for many uses. In a typical corporation, a tremendous amount of information does not need to be access-controlled. Wikis are excellent for this kind of information. Additionally, there is information that people THINK needs to be access-controlled, but doesn't really need it. If you educate people about the MediaWiki "watch" feature -- that people can be notified instantly if someone messes with their articles -- that may be enough to satisfy people. Finally, you have the small amount of information that truly needs tight access control: legal documents, financial documents, Human Resources official policies, etc. Buy a heavyweight CMS for that, and use lightweight MediaWiki for the rest! DanB _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Daniel Mendes

7:26 p.m.

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It usually means either Content Management System (i.e. Joomla) or Course Management System (i.e. Blackboard or Moodle) On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM, nevio carlos de alarcão < nevinhoalarcao(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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>> But they say that mediawiki user right management is not enough

powerful

for us.

And they are right to say that. ("MediaWiki is not designed to be a CMS,

need

to be access-controlled. Wikis are excellent for this kind of

information.

Additionally, there is information that people THINK needs to be access-controlled, but doesn't really need it. If you educate people

about

the MediaWiki "watch" feature -- that people can be notified instantly if someone messes with their articles -- that may be enough to satisfy

people.

Finally, you have the small amount of information that truly needs tight access control: legal documents, financial documents, Human Resources official policies, etc. Buy a heavyweight CMS for that, and use

lightweight

MediaWiki for the rest! DanB _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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