Coming upon yet another situation where it would be nice to reference
a quick guide to often-confused names, I've expanded Jens Ropers' list
(below) into a page on meta: explaining the difference between
different terms, and highlighting how they should and shouldn't be
used.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Names
I've inserted some references to it at relevant points around meta:,
but please link to it from wherever you think would be appropriate.
[And, obviously, improve on anything non-optimal about it...] I've
called it "Names" rather than something like "Often-confused terms" so
that it's nice and easy to remember; my idea being that when somebody
misuses one of these terms, we can say "BTW, please see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Names".
Thanks Jens for the idea, and the basis of the text. It may be cute
having names which are all puns on each other, but it sure is
confusing to the unitiated!
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:12:50 +0200, Jens Ropers <ropers(a)ropersonline.com> wrote:
> '''Wikimedia''' is the name of the Wikimedia Foundation, the parent
> organization encompassing our various projects such as Wikipedia,
> Wiktionary, Wikispecies, Wikicommons, etc.
> '''MediaWiki''' is the wiki software that is developed for and used by
> these projects (and available for others to use for their wikis as
> well).
> '''Wikipedia''' -- the free encyclopedia -- is but ONE project of the
> Wikimedia Foundation.
> '''Wiki''' is a generic term to describe certain kinds of collaborative
> websites that can be user/visitor-edited (and most Wikimedia foundation
> websites are examples of wikis).
> '''Wiki software''' is any software that powers wiki websites at the
> backend. Such software is also called a '''wiki engine'''. There are
> MANY other wiki engines besides MediaWiki, big and small; good, bad and
> ugly ones; a list is here: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines
>
> All --
> Anybody have a good idea where to post this info prominently? Or better
> yet, could whoever knows please go ahead and post this info
> prominently? Because these matters frequently seem to be a source of
> confusion.
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Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]
Hi,
the discusion about changing the navigation menu on the left was very
helpfull to me - I looked during several weeks for a solution how to
change "Wikimedia-Portal" into "Wiki Forum".
Thanks to your hints, I managed to change the link - but still there are
some related things I do not understand.
I changed the values for "Portal" to "Forum" and "Portal-URL" to "n...:
Forum".
When I go back to the mainpage, the link changes from "Wiki Forum" back
to "Wikimedia-Portal". When I click on the link, it nevertheless takes
me to the Wiki:Forum, and the Link is changing to "Wiki Forum". The same
story repeating ad infinitum, is to say: the link oscilates between
"Portal" and "Forum".
What is wrong with this solution?
Thanks for your attention!
Markus
Hello,
I would like to use svg in my wiki for musical notes and animated dance
routines. I have seen that there where some tests on Mediawiki (Brion, I think
you experimented with it), but it doesn't look like it went into production
already. What's the current status?
--
Regards,
Marko
Help,
------My version:
MediaWiki (http://wikipedia.sf.net/): 1.3.5
PHP (http://www.php.net/): 4.3.9 (apache)
MySQL (http://www.mysql.com/): 4.0.21-log
------What I try to do:
I tried to modify the "navigation menu" on the left side. Eg. add "Sandbox" to that menu.
For wiki/includes/SkinPHPTal.php, Line 468, add the following
468 $nav_urls['sandbox'] = array('href' => htmlspecialchars( $this->makeI18nUrl('sandbox')));
For /wiki/templates/xhtml_slim.pt
70 <li id="n-sandbox" ><a href="${nav_urls/sandbox/href}"
71 i18n:translate="string:sandbox">Sandbox</a></li>
------What's the current problem:
I got the <sandbox> instead of Sandbox showing up in the menu. Checked the source code,
not able to figure out where <sandbox> came from.
Is this related to its namespace? Haven't study the namespace yet. How I may fix it from
source code or mysql?
Thanks for help,
Charlie mailto:fczrzf@umkc.edu
Hi folks!
Installed mediawiki this morning, all is running well... the
only problem I have is, that I'm not able to alter predefined
text-parts.
I just wanted to add some text to last modified section at the
bottom of the page...
I opened "Language.php" and inserted some words at line 302
'lastmodified' => "bla bla bla This page..."
Saving the file does not change anything though!
Yes, I cleared my browser's cache... I also had a look at
the mailing list archives but couldn't find any help.
Generally I found out, that Costumizing mediawiki is not
documented very well, though I had a look at lots of ressources.
Are there any How-To documents on doing that? Further it would
be interesting, how to modify the navigation blocks...
Tried modifying xhtml_slim.pt. no effect. Also modified
SkinPHPTal.php without any effects...
It's a pity... mediawiki is wonderful, but customizing should
be much easier!
can anybody help?
kind regards, j.
===========================================
> Juergen Jessenig | jessenig(a)sofastar.at <
I'm curious to know how the news items on Wikipedia's Main Page get
to be inserted - regularly, in an organised way - in the Current
Events page.
Is there a script somewhere that does this? Or is it all done by
a team of dedicated volunteers? If there's a script, does it also
update the Current Events calendar?
Thanks,
John Ingleby
************
www.schoolforge.org.uk
Hi all. I've used a few different wikis now, most recently mediawiki
(which I enjoy the most).
One thing that detracts greatly from the whole experience is the
poverty of editing in a browser form. Given the popularity of wikis,
I imagine people must have addressed this.
If you're used to editing in notepad, maybe you find working on wiki
entries in a web browser form just fine. But if you're used to
something like emacs (my case), then doing any serious work on a wiki
is like pulling teeth. And that's a great shame because there are
compelling reasons to do serious work with a wiki.
How do people who are attached to their editors resolve this?
My best effort has been to install w3m on the OS (GNU/Linux, Mac OS X)
and then install the w3m mode in emacs. That means I can browse to a
wiki page inside emacs and it looks more or less ok. I can do the
editing using emacs and can then send the page back. By turning on
cookie processing in w3m, the wiki knows who is making the edits.
Do other people have better solutions to this?
Do people have opinions about the best form-editing available in a
browser? E.g., is editing in a form inside mozilla more or less
pleasant/configurable than doing so in opera? Is anyone aware of a
browser that can be (preferably selectively) configured to call out to
an external program to do editing? (E.g., I can configure opera to pop
an emacs mail-sending window when I click on a mailto link). Ideally,
one could configure the browser so that if the current URL matched a
certain regex then clicking in a textarea widget would cause an
external program to be run to handle the edit. Does this exist?
I have a second question, which I'll save for the next email.
Regards,
Terry.
So I have a couple of custom interwiki links set up for my wiki. I was going to set up another today, namely the KLI wiki at http://www.kli.org/wiki/ ... I ran into a problem, though, as the KLI wiki uses spaces in page names (e.g. "Klingonists of Note", but if I use a space in making an interwiki link it is converted to an underscore in the output ("Klingonists_of_Note"), which leads to an empty page. I tried using %20 instead, but it still turns into an underscore. ("%2B" for "+" doesn't work either.)
So:
Is there a way to make spaces available in interwiki links, or is this not possible [yet]?
*Muke!
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I can guess what the answer to this will be, but I'm going to ask
anyway.
I'm a big fan of m4. I use it for many things, and have done for about
eight years. It has its warts (and some of them are truly ugly), but
for my money it's a good general-purpose macro processor.
I use it so much that it's painful to produce something like a web
site without the benefit of macros. I'm (somewhat) aware of templates
in mediawiki, but these don't seem to offer me the ease and
flexibility of m4 macros. (Maybe I'm mistaken here - I'd be delighted
to hear that.)
So my question is how much thought has been given to allowing page
authors to indicate that their content should be run through a filter
(or filters) such as m4?
Security will of course be a major concern. But, there are sites that
are only authored by trusted users, and there are also approaches to
dealing with insecure things (like calling m4 and undefining dangerous
functions (e.g., syscmd, esyscmd, maketemp) on the command line. One
would also (perhaps) have to consider things amounting to denial of
service attacks on the wiki server by causing filters to go into an
infinite loop (this could perhaps be controlled by setting an alarm on
the child forked to handle the filtering).
In the general case you can imagine (imagining is free after all)
something like
<filter command="m4 -arg1 -arg2">
text
</filter>
or, to address the question earlier about doing line wrapping,
<filter command="fmt">
<pre>
text
</pre>
</filter>
and the wiki admin would get to set the list of acceptable "safe"
filters (and possibly their arguments) in the wiki config file.
The filter would be run and the output, if any, would replace the
<filter></filter> tags. stderr output could appear too, as happens
when the code that processes TeX formulae hits a snag.
FWIW, I changed mod_wiki to allow m4 pre-processing of pages that
started with a certain indicator.
Have people done things like this? Have ideas like this, which I'm
sure must have come up in the past, been rejected once and for all?
Regards,
Terry.