[Wikipedia-l] Policy draft: Wikimedia projects are not the place for national constitution

Tue Nov 14 11:06:17 UTC 2006

On 11/13/06, Bogdan Giusca <liste at dapyx.com> wrote:
> Monday, November 13, 2006, 1:34:19 PM, Milos wrote:
>
> > Please, look at
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_projects_are_not_the_place_for_national_constitution
>
> Yep. It seems we're going to have the same endless talks again. :-)

As I said, document doesn't intend to solve all questions. Moldovan
may not pass some other recommendations (or, as I think, mo-cyr is a
good idea with mo as a portal).

Document intends to prevent including Wikimedia in disputable
political processes of building new nations. Just that. In short:
don't use Wikipedia for that, build it somewhere else and if you are
relevant enough, then come here.

Also, Ethnologue and other academic institutions are not able to be up
to date (they even didn't solve well situation in former
Serbo-Croatian area; even Wikipedia article [[en:South Slavic
languages]] solved it much better even it is far of perfect). And
Google is not so relevant. And we should allow to small lagnuages to
have their own Wikipedia.

BTW, why do we have Siberian Wikipedia? According to what rule
Siberian Wikipedia passed and Zlatiborian is not? Because Wikimedia
Serbia exists and Wikimedia Russia doesn't?

Just in Serbia, there are dialects which may pass usual definitions or
which may not pass just because of the number of people who opposite
the idea. And my document may help in saying "no". For example, Vlach
language Wikipedia would not pass rules (want-to-be standard;
with(out) significant differences toward Romanian standard; nation not
well constituted). But, some dialect Wikipedia based on southern
Romanian dialects would pass (dialect; with significant differences;
not nation-based language). And this is only about Serbia. I am sure
that only in Europe there are a lot of such examples.

So, we need a clear political statement which say: yes, make Wikipedia
in your dialect, but don't involve Wikip/media in your local politics.