[Wikipedia-l] Re: contributions to HU wiki

Wed Jun 2 17:31:30 UTC 2004

Hi, Timwi and Brion,

Being blocked from making modest experimental contibutions is not a big
issue after all, so forget it. But if it happens to other people in the
Huwiki as well, you will not have the discussions going on any term, a
proposition that can be easily asserted by looking at the number of
contributors for each item/term.
And in that case the number of potential wikipedians will not grow in HUW,
and neither will the number of entries properly produced.
On the other hand, if HUWP is a one man show only, it must be no fun for any
other volunteers either
Also, seeing that huge amount of work you have already put in the Works, I
wonder whether anybody in this forum is willing to discuss some related and
maybe topical questions of alternative methods of "creating verbal
buildings" - not to cause a problem or discourage the participants, but to
show how wikipedia or anything of that sort could be different from a
traditional book form and using currently non-dyamic paradigm to describe
knowledge.

Ferenc Kovacs

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Timwi" <timwi at gmx.net>
To: <wikipedia-l at wikipedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 7:05 PM
Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Re: contributions to HU wiki

> Brion Vibber wrote:
>
> > It starts with an ad hominem attack ("censoring").
>
> Hi Brion,
>
> of course, all you say is kind of true, and I understand you found the
> initial message a little vague. But at the same time, I must frankly say
> that I find your handling of this case rather cold and inconsiderate.
> You dismiss it as "not a problem" simply because there is not enough
> information *to you* to conclude that there is a problem.
>
> You don't seem to have any idea what it is like to be completely at the
> mercy of someone who is in a position of greater power, who abuses that
> power and is unwillig to grant it to others, who is extremely difficult
> to convince of anything other than what is already their opinion, etc.
> It feels like an insurmountable wall, and every time you slightly kick
> it, a brick hits you on the head. I have been to several volunteer
> projects across the Internet where a situation similar to this was at
> work, and it's extremely disappointing and frustrating when there are
> higher-ups who just don't care, much less act.
>
> Timwi
>
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