[Wikipedia-l] Obnoxious art galleries...

Wed Aug 4 05:38:49 UTC 2004

Alas, that era predates high-quality color printing. Art galleries are
likely to be pretty zealous about protecting their sources of revenue,
not just the reproduction rights, but also as encouragement for
visitors to come and see the pictures in person, rather than getting
their fill online.

I wonder if they could be convinced to GFDL thumbnails, as a sort of
quasi-advertising. One might also exploit a little national chauvinism,
pointing out that the PD status of most US government images is causing
Wikipedia's historical imagery to be dominated by US pictures; for
instance, a bunch of Royal Navy ship pictures come from US archives,
can't imagine the Brits being particularly proud about that. :-)

Stan

Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:

>The simple solution is that we need to find as many nicely printed art
>books from the PD era, and do some mass scanning and uploading,
>documenting carefully the sources.
>
>--Jimbo
>
>Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 04:41:09AM +0000, wikipedia-l-request at Wikimedia.org wrote:
>>
>>>Message: 8
>>>Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 21:38:28 -0700
>>>From: "Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales" <jwales at wikia.com>
>>>Subject: [Wikipedia-l] [bhorrocks at npg.org.uk: National Portrait
>>>	Gallery	images on Wikipedia website]
>>>To: wikipedia-l at wikimedia.org, wikien-l at wikimedia.org
>>>Message-ID: <20040804043828.GM23467 at wikia.com>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>>It would please me greatly to be able to respond that their claims are
>>>preposterous.  Shall we research this carefully?
>>>
>>>
>>I don't know about UK law, but the National Gallery of Victoria 
>>in Australia (with the shared legal tradition I believe the copyright
>>laws are similar) seems to believe that they own the rights to any 
>>photographs of the artworks they own, even if the artworks themselves 
>>are in the public domain.  You will note the copyright notice on 
>>this Australian website:
>>
>>http://www.artistsfootsteps.com/html/Artists_mccubbin.htm
>>
>>This is despite the fact that McCubbin died in 1917.
>>
>>I have been meaning to get around to making further enquiries into this
>>in the Australian context, but haven't got around to it.  Given this
>>enquiry, it just got moved up my priority list.
>>
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