[WikiEN-l] [<>: A photo on Wikipedia]

Mon Mar 22 21:32:44 UTC 2004

It seems this publisher published some photography from  Joey de Vera :

RLI Gallery Systems, Inc. 
3/F GLORIETTA 4, Artspace 
Ayala Center, Makati City,
Metro Manila Philippines
Tel : (+632) 819 0631 
Fax : (+632) 819 5769 
E-mail : gallery at lietz.com 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Saintonge" <saintonge at telus.net>
To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [<>: A photo on Wikipedia]

> My first impression was that this required an RTFM response, but when I 
> look at the picture I realize that it's a fair use picture.  The 
> question isn't silly anymore.  Although I'm on the end of the spectrum 
> that supports using fair use material, I believe that the person who 
> contributes fair use material still has a responsibility to cite his 
> sources.  That in turn depends on knowing what it means to cite sources. 
>  The contributor probably felt that mentioning Joey de Vera was enough, 
> but I think he fell short.  Citing a source means adding enough 
> information to allow the downstream user with adequate resources to 
> verify the facts and to exercise his own due dilligence.  Our Polish 
> user evidently wants to do this.  The picture in question was taken in 
> 1986 in the Philippines.  A person who is skilled at searching the web 
> may be able to track this down, but even for him that could be hours of 
> work  It is not the responsibility of the community as a whole to do one 
> person's homework.  
> 
> The contributor in this case, Seav,  remains active on Philippine 
> related topics; perhaps the problem should be put in his lap
> 
> Ec
> 
> Jimmy Wales wrote:
> 
> >How should I respond to such inquiries?
> >
> >I think we should have (and probably already do?) a page written in
> >everyday language that says
> >
> >"So, you want to use some of our content... here is what you need to
> >do."
> >
> >--Jimbo
> >
> >----- Forwarded message from <> -----
> >
> >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:08:43 +0100
> >To: jwales at bomis.com
> >Subject: A photo on Wikipedia
> >
> >Dear Sirs,
> >
> >there is a photo shown on a Wikipedia website, which my friends
> >would like to use in their publication:
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:EDSA_Revolution_pic1.jpg
> >
> >The photo is authored by a  Joey de Vera.
> >
> >Unfortunately basing on the information given on the website I am
> >not able to trace Mr de Vera on the Internet.
> >
> >You are kindly requested to tell me whom should we contact
> >to get a necessary permission to use the photo in our publication?
> >
> >At the moment I am writing unofficially on behalf of a small
> >editors in Krakow, Poland. I am doing so only to get preliminary
> >information on the subject. However, after having received it further
> >negotiation would be taken over by competent officials from the
> >edition.
> >
> >Hoping to hear from you soon
> >
> 
> 
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