[WikiEN-l] Diffs and sources

Thu Aug 12 15:47:13 UTC 2004

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>Robert,
>
>I know all this is crucially important to you, but I wish you would cool
>down a bit. The Sabbath starts tonight, and I hope you will take some
>time for reflection once the sun goes down.
>
>To handle a controversy about sources, I suggest we DESCRIBE that
>controversy. If a newspaper misquoted somebody about topic X, then we
>should mention the "misquoting incident" in the article about X.
>
>What you wrote could simply be marked up in Wikipedia format and
>inserted verbatim into the article:
>
>==Misquotes of Rabbi Uri Regev==
>
>The newspaper editor who first wrote about Regev's words
>was publicly forced to retract her claims. Columbia
>University Journalism School Professor Ari Goldman called
>the original story, which misrepresented Rabbi Regev, "irresponsible
>journalism" and said that it violated several basic principles of
>journalism regarding quoting people.
>
>----
>
>It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.
>--Jewish saying, as quoted by Charles Schulz in "Peanuts"
>
>Ed Poor
>A member of the Mediation Committee
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In the spirit of compromise (or perhaps the spirit of being beaten down by 
all the accusations and rhetoric) I have (on the Talk: page) proposed a new 
wording for the section which omits the controversial claim altogether, 
makes no reference whatsoever to Rabbi Regev, and instead brings other more 
clearly documented claims.  I hope that will end the discussion on this 
list, and return it to the Talk: page where it belongs.

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