[WikiEN-l] Forgiving and forgetting

Wed Aug 27 02:41:46 UTC 2003

> What course of action is left?

Here's my suggestion:
1. Robert accepts that it is wrong to insult people on
Wikipedia, apologises, and agrees not to do so in the
future.
2. Those who Robert has insulted accept his apology,
forgive him, and agree not to 
bring up the subject in the future.
3. Robert accepts that it is wrong to ask for bona
fide Wikipedians to be banned, apologises, and stops
doing so.
4. Those who Robert has asked to be banned accept his
apology, forgive him, and agree not to bring up the
subject in the future.
5. Robert accepts that it is wrong to accuse bona fide
Wikipedians of being vandals, apologises, and stops
doing so.
6. Those who Robert has accused of being vandals
accept his apology, forgive him, and agree not to
bring up the subject in the future.
7. Those who created all the junk on this topic accept
that it was wrong to create so much junk, apologise
for doing so, and agree not to do so in the future.
8. Those who were affected by all the junk on the
subject accept the collective apology, forgive those
who created it, and agree not to bring up the subject
in the future.
9. All the junk on this topic, scattered over various
talk pages, user talk pages, ban pages, mailing lists,
etc, is all sent to the big recycle bin in the sky.
10. Time passes.
11. People start to forgive.
12. People start to forget.

This 12 step procedure will make everyone happy, I
believe. However, I welcome alternative suggestions,
or improvements. If you want to edit it, it'll be at 
[[Wikipedia:Community case RK]], replacing the big
pile of junk previously located there.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to sort out step
zero: filling in my tax return... ;-)

Love,
-Martin "MyRedDice" Harper

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It is not entirely clear to me if we have to "close
the eyes and pretend we see nothing wrong in the talk
pages" after we agreed to mutually apology and forgive
and be good girls and good boys.

But I know RK has agreed he might have been mistaking
on some points about me, and he agreed to rephrase all
the junk he wrote about me, and I have agreed to talk
to him politely again and to try not to hold him bad
feelings and assume good faith from him.

However, the rephrasing and removing of insults was
not done. The comments will stay forever in article
history, and the mailing lists are very well known by
google, and the articles quite easy to retrieve since
he spread my name in all the message titles, with
quite unpleasant statements to me. Type Anthere in
google, one of his messages is there, first page.

So, I ask "How are those people on the net, who find
such comments about me on mailing lists, and such
comments about me on talk pages are gonna understand
them and know where they come from if all references
about the current debate are gone ? No where.

So, I stay polite, and I could forgive in time, but I
do not expect to *forget* *anytime in the near future*.

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