[WikiEN-l] More about Zog

Tue Apr 29 11:12:01 UTC 2003

In a post to the Johnny Rebel article, Zog wrote: 

"The main reason why nothing was determined through "talking" is because 
Danny refused to talk and defend his arguments. Yet, its his version that 
wins out in the end? Very un-diplomatic"

I will reiterate my position here. Zog is a racist and a bigot and an 
anti-Semite. He has written about the "gorillas" in Cuba who were behind the 
revolution, the level of filth in various Latin American countries, and given 
a list of racist epithets under the heading "song titles." His contributions, 
particularly the earliest versions, are even more hateful. For example, he 
write: "In JR's songs, are powerful messages about unity, equality, freedom, 
and creating a better America. Although a bit silly at times, like with "KKK 
man", which talks about killing Bill Cosby, bludgeoning Urkel, and extreme 
hatred for Dr. Zaius, JR's Political messages have been poignant, political 
and innovating for those in his hometown of Lousiana, and beyond."

Zog's very name is anti-Semitic. ZOG is an acronym for "Zionist Occupation 
Government," a term used by neo-Nazis and White Power advocates to promote 
the conspiracy theory that a cabal of Jews is secretly running the government 
of the United States. Zog denied even knowing this, however, in his original 
draft of the Johnny Rebel article he quoted David Duke as saying: "I have 
been in politics for several decades and I will be in for several more, but I 
always will never be able to articulate the way ZOG controls the media, the 
coloreds want their hand-outs and how chimps DO, in fact, want their 'ugly 
stick' as well as JR has." In other words, he is fully aware of the racist 
connotations of his name. 

I, for one, will not engage Zog in dialogue. To debate the content of his 
articles is to grant the subject-matter legitimacy.  To debate whether people 
of African descent are "gorillas" is dehumanizing to them. Personally, I 
believe it is dehumanizing to anyone involved in the debate. To discuss which 
songs of his to list (why "Some Niggers Never Die" or "No Niggers in Our 
Schools" but not "Coon Shootin' Boogie"--for non-Americans, "coon" is another 
derogatory term for African-Americans) is similarly offensive. To discuss 
whether he is a member of the Ku Klux Klan or simply has views that run 
parallel to theirs (though he did record the "KKK Song") is an attempt to 
evade the point. 

My position is that entering into dialogue with Zog grants him and his views 
legitimacy. Sifting through his material so that his additions to the [[Chaco 
War]] can stay, but comments like those he put in the [[History of Jews in 
the Soviet Union]] should be removed is also an exercise in futilty. Do we 
have to go through each of his edits to determine whether they are blatantly 
racist or not. 

For this reason, I will not enter into dialogue with him. I will remove his 
changes as I see them, and hope that he will be banned. I hope people support 
me in this. If you have any doubts, just look at the history of his user 
contributions. This is certainly not the kind of person we want in Wikipedia. 

Danny

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