[teampractices] Phabricator terminology change (blocking->subtasks)

Fri Jul 1 18:27:47 UTC 2016

Technically, yes.

This distinguishes tasks that are subtasks of already-estimated (story
pointed) tasks, so to avoid double estimation. JIRA, for example, has
blocking tasks and subtasks, presumably for this purpose.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Joel Aufrecht <jaufrecht at wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> aren't those both parent/child relationships?  What's the difference?
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> *-- Joel Aufrecht*
> Team Practices Group
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Max Binder <mbinder at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> I know my teams would love to distinguish between subtasks (of tasks with
>> story points) and children (of epics). I don't think that is possible right
>> now, so they often use the title prefix "[Subtask]".
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Joel Aufrecht <jaufrecht at wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Should we make (or find and join) a request that they provide a way to
>>> differentiate between the two cases?  Possible uses:
>>>
>>> different display in the UI
>>> use in data analysis, e.g., summing up tasks by summing up their
>>> subtasks (and not dependencies)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *-- Joel Aufrecht*
>>> Team Practices Group
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Kevin Smith <ksmith at wikimedia.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This week, phabricator changed the terminology it uses for managing
>>>> dependencies between tasks. What has been called "Blocking"/"Blocked by" is
>>>> now called "Parent"/"Subtask". Ignoring phab terminology for a minute, here
>>>> are the two basic cases these terms are covering:
>>>>
>>>> 1. *Sequential dependencies.* For example, if "Implement feature X"
>>>> needed to be complete before "Document feature X", then the implementation
>>>> task would Block the document task, and the document task would be blocked
>>>> by the implement task.
>>>>
>>>> 2. *Composition relationships/task breakdown.* For example, if "deploy
>>>> feature X" consisted of "implement feature X" and "document feature X",
>>>> then the deploy task might be a parent, while the implement and document
>>>> tasks would be subtasks.
>>>>
>>>> Until recently, phab has used the blocking/blocked by term to cover
>>>> both cases. A parent task would be blocked by its subtasks. There was a
>>>> command to create a subtask, which would create the appropriate blocking
>>>> relationships.
>>>>
>>>> Now, phab uses the parent/subtask terminology to cover both cases. In
>>>> the sequential tasks case, the endpoint would be considered the parent, so
>>>> in the example above, "document" would be the parent, and "implement" would
>>>> be its subtask. Note that a task may have multiple "parents".
>>>>
>>>> A nice feature they added is the ability to manage the parent/subtask
>>>> relationship from either end. While editing a task, you can change its
>>>> subtasks or its parents. Previously, you could only edit one direction.
>>>>
>>>> I created T139181 as a task to update our wiki phab documentation.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin Smith
>>>> Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>
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