[teampractices] Phabricator terminology change (blocking->subtasks)

Joel Aufrecht jaufrecht at wikimedia.org
Fri Jul 1 17:40:30 UTC 2016


aren't those both parent/child relationships?  What's the difference?



*-- Joel Aufrecht*
Team Practices Group
Wikimedia Foundation

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Max Binder <mbinder at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> I know my teams would love to distinguish between subtasks (of tasks with
> story points) and children (of epics). I don't think that is possible right
> now, so they often use the title prefix "[Subtask]".
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Joel Aufrecht <jaufrecht at wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Should we make (or find and join) a request that they provide a way to
>> differentiate between the two cases?  Possible uses:
>>
>> different display in the UI
>> use in data analysis, e.g., summing up tasks by summing up their subtasks
>> (and not dependencies)
>>
>>
>>
>> *-- Joel Aufrecht*
>> Team Practices Group
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Kevin Smith <ksmith at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> This week, phabricator changed the terminology it uses for managing
>>> dependencies between tasks. What has been called "Blocking"/"Blocked by" is
>>> now called "Parent"/"Subtask". Ignoring phab terminology for a minute, here
>>> are the two basic cases these terms are covering:
>>>
>>> 1. *Sequential dependencies.* For example, if "Implement feature X"
>>> needed to be complete before "Document feature X", then the implementation
>>> task would Block the document task, and the document task would be blocked
>>> by the implement task.
>>>
>>> 2. *Composition relationships/task breakdown.* For example, if "deploy
>>> feature X" consisted of "implement feature X" and "document feature X",
>>> then the deploy task might be a parent, while the implement and document
>>> tasks would be subtasks.
>>>
>>> Until recently, phab has used the blocking/blocked by term to cover both
>>> cases. A parent task would be blocked by its subtasks. There was a command
>>> to create a subtask, which would create the appropriate blocking
>>> relationships.
>>>
>>> Now, phab uses the parent/subtask terminology to cover both cases. In
>>> the sequential tasks case, the endpoint would be considered the parent, so
>>> in the example above, "document" would be the parent, and "implement" would
>>> be its subtask. Note that a task may have multiple "parents".
>>>
>>> A nice feature they added is the ability to manage the parent/subtask
>>> relationship from either end. While editing a task, you can change its
>>> subtasks or its parents. Previously, you could only edit one direction.
>>>
>>> I created T139181 as a task to update our wiki phab documentation.
>>>
>>> Kevin Smith
>>> Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
>>>
>>>
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