[Foundation-l] Meta:MetaProject to Overhaul Meta

Wed Mar 29 22:23:39 UTC 2006

On 3/30/06, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/29/06, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 3/29/06, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > That's nice. Are you speaking for the Foundation here? I ask because
> > > of opinions expressed by Aurevilly and Delphine on the Communications
> > > Committee list regarding en: Wikipedia. Fairly problematic ones
> > > considering Wikimedia France is the one local chapter that is actually
> > > legally affiliated with the Foundation. I note that Aurevilly just
> > > blanked his en: Wikipedia user page, coinciding with expressing his
> > > contempt for en:wp openly. Just the thing for a Foundation person to
> > > show their high regard for cross project issues.
> > >
> > > What on earth is going in in WMF France? Has en: wikipedia been
> > > declared the enemy?
> >
> > Bringing this back on the topic of the meta cleanup,  this post/thread
> > is obvious evidence that http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dick is still
> > needed and important and shouldn't be removed.
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Just an observation.
>
> Sort of a follow on to this, since it's something I said to other
> folks and was told it was thoughtful enough to bear a public
> repetition:
>
> I think we need to do more to make everyone understand that we're
> working for common goals even if we don't always agree on methods.  I
> used to get far more upset with Angela, Florence, and Jimbo when I
> disagreed with them.  ... After spending more time talking with them,
> and more time talking to people who've spent time talking with them I
> am far more willing and able to accept disagreements as just that,
> disagreements. For a counter example, I was still a dick to Tim (on
> the toolserver-list) today, largely because I've not reached a point
> where I believe in my heart that he and I share common goals.
>
> This is an issue common to all organizations, and I've seen this play
> out many times within Wikimedia both for myself and for others. Even
> when you are aware of it, it can be hard to escape.  I think this is
> just one of those things which will always challenge us, and which we
> will always have find ways to improve.


"Et à la fin de l'envoi, je touche."
(in Cyrano de Bergerac, by Edmond Rostand)

:-)

Delphine

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