[Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

Piotr Miazga pmiazga at wikimedia.org
Wed Jul 11 08:44:58 UTC 2018


I agree with Marko, every time there is a DST change my calendar is totally
messed up (some events are pinned to the Pacific time zone, other to the
Central European time zone). By pinning everything to UTC we could save
that confusion.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:05 AM Marko Obrovac <mobrovac at wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> On 11 July 2018 at 00:47, Greg Grossmeier <greg at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Great question! (Unfortunately) for simplicity we will keep the windows
>> pinned to SF/Pacific timezone. Some windows moving and others not would
>> create too much confusion; even more than the normal daylight savings
>> changes already do.
>>
>
> It seems to me that it will be confusing only to non-US people, honestly,
> which are the ones benefiting from this change. When DST changes are
> applied, and because they are not applied at the same across the globe,
> people will see their SWAT times change for no apparent reason. At the same
> time, there is plenty of hours of difference between the last deploy window
> mentioned in your email and the first SF-centric deployment window to
> account for the periods when DST settings vary.
>
> I believe that pinning them to UTC would actually eliminate the confusion.
>
>
> My 2 cents,
> Marko
>
> Marko Obrovac, PhD
> Senior Services Engineer
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Greg
>>
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