Dear All -
Last December 6th special meeting event
on Wikipedia and NFT with a few invited guests
made me think we could do meeting that are relevant
beyond our immediate scope and be more visible...
...but also last week I was almost topic-banned
on HR Wikipedia (Croatian) as none of the Admins knew
what Wikimedian in Residence is and were thinking
it is either paid editing or problematic self-promotion
(when I was actually unemployed :-)))
So after a successful event and a monthly HR drama,
I am thinking what can we do better to increase
WiR and WREN visibility on Wikipedia and Wikimedia.
For people coming from most of the arts the notion of
artist-in-residence is super familiar and easy to relate to,
but average Wikipedian (if there is such thing)
has very few chances to come across this term
as well as to grasp what Wikimedian in Residence is.
Only 27 Wikipedia instances have articles on WiRs
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3809586
What could be good strategies to change that?
15 years ago (so we missed it by a week)
on December 13, 2006 we got this text as a start
http://original-research.blogspot.com/2006/12/wikipedian-in-residence-propo…
Maybe we can draft something short quickly today
and just pass it on later in the day to Wikimedia-L
and potentially to the DIFF Blog of WMF?
Elsewhere?
Best Z
Dear Amanda and ALL,
we can start with a short 30min meeting this Saturday or alternatively
Sunday if that works for others? Who else can-would join?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 7:06 PM Amanda Lawrence <amanda.lawrence(a)rmit.edu.au>
wrote:
Hi Zeljko,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, sorry for the slow response. I'm in CET +10
> (Aust Eastern Day Time or AEDT) so it does get tricky.
> Currently 1pm CET is 11pm AEDT and 7 am ET (daylight savings will end here
> soon and start other places so may change by an hour). So 1pm CET or
> earlier would be great for me. I'd love to attend a meeting at some point
> and get to meet people.
>
Thank you for elaborating. Hope others join in also.
> Something I've noticed is a lot of the info on WiR is focussed on GLAM
> orgs but I am in a Research Centre so there are quite different issues and
> content editing is definitely something I need to do, with colleagues, but
> also directly myself.
>
Understandable. Mind you there are other WiRs in academia and elsewhere (I
am in NGO now) so there are huge differences indeed (can relate to that
easily).
> So it was quite confusing at the beginning seeing that some guides say no
> paid editing while others say it is fine (for English Wikipedia) and
> Wikidata seems to be no problem.
>
I gave up on absolute coherence in Wikimedia after finding similar (but
also sometimes opposing) info and guidance in different corners on
Wikimedia, so I hope you are not discouraged with this situation, but
rather proactive to help advance and articulate some aspects :-)
> There is a big community in health but I am in a social science area so
> trying to adapt health approaches to a far more diverse and disparate
> community and subject area.
>
I hear you. Wikimedia Foundation Research team work is also done without a
single social science person, but that is hopefully going to change in the
future...
> I'm also interested in working with Wikidata but still trying to work out
> how that would be effective for my organisation and the field.
>
Join the (big) club. Many try to do this in different fields, while those
who already know it also keep expanding their agenda.
> If anyone has any good links on being a WiR in a social science field I
> would love to hear about them.
>
I would also love to have us look at this together and come up with a good
way to establish an overview of WiRs across topics and fields (timeline
exists).
Best Z. Blace
Hello all,
My name is Savannah and I also have been working as a WiR at an
academic organization focused on better representing writing studies and
the humanities broadly. I'm very interested in attending an upcoming
meeting about the issue of different WiR visibility in various contexts
(especially academic). I will try to make the meeting on Saturday if it
isn't too late at night (I'm in the US, PST time). If not, I will take a
look at the notes.
Cheers,
Savannah
Great idea. This weekend is good if we can find a time that suits. Not sure we can cover all of Europe, US and Aust/NZ without someone being up at 2am!
It would be great if the regular meetings could change times each month so there could be a chance of participating occasionally. The research open office is doing this now.
Cheers
Amanda
On 16 Mar 2022 7:59 am, Mike Dickison <mike(a)rove.wiki> wrote:
I would be keen to join a conversation. I'm at UTC+13, so a couple of hours ahead of Australia, but will try to make whatever time we decide on.
On 16/03/2022, at 12:38 AM, Željko Blaće <zblace(a)mi2.hr<mailto:zblace@mi2.hr>> wrote:
Dear Amanda and ALL,
we can start with a short 30min meeting this Saturday or alternatively Sunday if that works for others? Who else can-would join?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 7:06 PM Amanda Lawrence <amanda.lawrence(a)rmit.edu.au<mailto:amanda.lawrence@rmit.edu.au>> wrote:
Hi Zeljko,
Thanks for the suggestion, sorry for the slow response. I'm in CET +10 (Aust Eastern Day Time or AEDT) so it does get tricky.
Currently 1pm CET is 11pm AEDT and 7 am ET (daylight savings will end here soon and start other places so may change by an hour). So 1pm CET or earlier would be great for me. I'd love to attend a meeting at some point and get to meet people.
Thank you for elaborating. Hope others join in also.
Something I've noticed is a lot of the info on WiR is focussed on GLAM orgs but I am in a Research Centre so there are quite different issues and content editing is definitely something I need to do, with colleagues, but also directly myself.
Understandable. Mind you there are other WiRs in academia and elsewhere (I am in NGO now) so there are huge differences indeed (can relate to that easily).
So it was quite confusing at the beginning seeing that some guides say no paid editing while others say it is fine (for English Wikipedia) and Wikidata seems to be no problem.
I gave up on absolute coherence in Wikimedia after finding similar (but also sometimes opposing) info and guidance in different corners on Wikimedia, so I hope you are not discouraged with this situation, but rather proactive to help advance and articulate some aspects :-)
There is a big community in health but I am in a social science area so trying to adapt health approaches to a far more diverse and disparate community and subject area.
I hear you. Wikimedia Foundation Research team work is also done without a single social science person, but that is hopefully going to change in the future...
I'm also interested in working with Wikidata but still trying to work out how that would be effective for my organisation and the field.
Join the (big) club. Many try to do this in different fields, while those who already know it also keep expanding their agenda.
If anyone has any good links on being a WiR in a social science field I would love to hear about them.
I would also love to have us look at this together and come up with a good way to establish an overview of WiRs across topics and fields (timeline exists).
Best Z. Blace
Hi fellow WRENs,
Join here on Wednesday: https://meet.google.com/asi-hpms-pxv
Wed March 9, 12pm – 1pm Eastern Time - New York
Note that we will be returning to Google Meet rather than Wikimedia Meet,
as the latter is currently not stable enough.
Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)