I also think that we should keep things as simple as possible. Those who
have admin rights at Wikivoyage (all language versions) should retain
their status after the migration. Those who were admins at Wikitravel
and did not claim their admin rights at Wikivoyage should be treated on
a personalized basis, as soon as they decide to re-appear. Records of
the election procedure are still available, so it is very easy to
understand who is who.
Regarding smaller language versions, I am representing one (ru). I don't
see any of the problems that Snowolf mentioned. We have three local
(Russian) admins who are active since at least three years. Three of us
have done lots of post-migration cleanup, we have started the revision
of policies, and we will continue it after the migration to WMF. I can't
imagine why any of us may suddenly decide to leave because of the new
policies or something. Of course, we can also play this game of
temporary admins vs. permanent admins, but this procedure looks
redundant. What we actually need is more time for substantial
(travel-related) contributions.
-Alexander
On 24/10/2012 07:15, Ravikiran S. Rao wrote:
Folks, I do submit that we are overthinking this. We
can make the
process as complex as we like, but it is not going to affect the end
result or get us any additional benefits.
On the English Wikivoyage, almost everyone who is an admin has been
elected when he or she was at Wikitravel. A couple were elected later
and I believe that a couple have the privilege for technical reasons.
All of them should get carried over as it is - they have all received
community approval.
There are a few Wikitravel admins (not IB admins) who have not created
accounts on Wikivoyage or have not asked for admin privileges, probably
because of laziness or whatever. I'd expect it isn't going to be worth
the effort for the WMF guys to identify them and make them sysops (and
if they haven't even created accounts, how'd you do that?) But in terms
of policy, I'd expect the community to decide that anyone who was an
admin at Wikitravel just needs to ask and they will get privileges here
as well. (Obviously, none of this is going to apply to the IB employees
who made themselves admins, or to any admin "elected" by the current
rump community there)
The above should apply to all the language versions other than German
and Italian that we are launching. The ones we are incubating, that is
another story. Temporary sysoping etc. can be done there.
The German and Italian Wikivoyages are an even simpler case. Everyone
who is an admin now should simply continue.
On 23 October 2012 23:31, Philippe Beaudette <philippe(a)wikimedia.org
<mailto:philippe@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
Hi everyone,
In the migration process, one of the questions that has come up is
the initial assignment of the administrator rights. Our current
plan is to assign administrator rights to anyone who currently has
them on the legacy Wikivoyage wiki (and I'm certainly open to
expanding that to include the legacy Wikitravel wiki, I just don't
know how many people are in that group that aren't already
wikivoyage administrators).
I wanted to toss that out as a discussion point here and see what
the general feeling was about that as an opening position? Am I way
off base? Is there something else that would work better? My main
interest here is a lightweight system that will work to get the
project launched.
pb
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