Hi Joe, Geoffrey, all,
I like the idea of a collaboration with PlanetMath, and I also think it's a
great idea to start thinking seriously about how to turn work done in
Wikiversity and other online spaces into academic credit. On open
accreditation, P2PU are doing some work on this, as (I think) are
Wikieducator, and of course David Wiley has done some great work in the last
two years or so. Wikiversity has long had these discussions, and a few
proposed initiatives, but nothing concrete so far. Still, early days... :-)
I'm very interested in talking more. I've just finished my own PhD about
Wikiversity's first two years of development as a learning space. :-)
Joe, I'm intrigued by your statement on your slides that PlanetMath might
have "the most potential" for gaining academic credit. What do you mean
here? Does PlanetMath have any institutional affiliations already set up
that would facilitate this?
I think your OU contacts might be very useful. OU is forward-looking, and of
course their OpenLearn initiative is very interested in pushing forward
opportunities in the world of OER. I have contacts in OpenLearn if you want
me to put you in touch. Also, on your request for CS people that might be
interested, I don't know if they'd be interested, but I'm working with some
of the people in the CS department in the University of Manchester (where
I'm based, school of education) who are pretty open-minded.
Anyway, let's keep talking - thanks for the spark. :-)
Cormac
2010/3/31 Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com>
Joe,
One of the issues with running a for credit class on Wikiversity is that
the Wikimedia Board specifically doesn't want us (the participants) running
certification/accredited classes under the Foundation's umbrella. This
doesn't bar us from hosting them, (I'm designing one for a school right
now), it just requires that a organization be willing to sponsor it. We are
also working on a sandbox server which might be able to host a CMS like
Moodle to expand on the wiki software.
Other projects have discussed collapsing into Wikimedia, but the community
tends to be pretty reluctant about approving new projects. Wikiversity is
the newest project, and was approved in 2006. It would probably be better to
maintain a partnership, and perhaps have PlanetMath collapse into a new free
university or something.
Geoffrey
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*From:* Joe Corneli <holtzermann17(a)gmail.com>
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*Sent:* Wed, March 31, 2010 8:27:51 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Wikiversity-l] planetmath teamup?
Joe, it sounds like a cool idea. Feel free to be
bold and work on it.
Definitely. I think that at this point "coalition building" is
a reasonable objective. We have tons of *ideas*, but
I think implementation is going to take somewhat broad-based
support. I've been talking to the Teaching Open Source
folks (
http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Main_Page)
and they like the idea.
Who would be the college for the for-credit
class?
We're definitely still in "looking around" mode. As I mentioned,
I'm at The Open University, UK, and I brought the idea up with
some of the maths people here. But that was just yesterday
and now I'm waiting to hear back. A more conventional college
that nevertheless likes experimental/innovative courses might
be a better bet. (Ideas welcome. CS or mathematics faculty
champions especially welcome :)
The Wikiversity IRC channel is always open, and
users are generally in
there
to talk further. You can also bring it up on the
Colloquium on
Wikiversity.
I anticipate a lot of large-scale issues around "Wiki versus Noosphere"
(Noosphere is PlanetMath's hand-rolled collaboration platform). And
in the long-term, I wonder whether the PlanetMath/Noosphere project
can get folded into Wikimedia on an organizational level. So... there
will be lots of things to talk about.
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