What is with this? Why are the XML dumps (the primary product of the
projects: re-usable content) the absolute effing lowest possible
effing priority? Why?
I just finished (I thought) putting together some new software to
update iwikis on the wiktionaries. It is set up to read the
"langlinks" and "all-titles" part of the dumps. Just as I do that,
the
dumps fall down. Again. And no-one cares one whit; not even a reply
here. (The bug was replied to after 4 days, and *might* be fixed
presently, after 9 days?)
My course of action now is to write new code to use thousands of API
calls to get the information, albeit as efficiently as I can. When I
do that, the chance that it will ever go back to using the dumps is a
very close approximation to zero. After all, it will work somewhat
better that way.
Other people, *many*, *many*, other people are being *forced* to do
the same, to maintain their apps and functions based on the WMF data.
And there is no chance in hell they will go back to the dump "service"
either.
Brion, Tim, et al: you are worried about overall server load? Get the
dumps working. This morning. And make it crystal clear that they will
not break, and you will be checking them n times a day and they can be
utterly, totally, absolutely relied upon.
It's like that. People will use what *works*.
Want people to use the dumps? Make them WORK.
Want everyone to just dynamically crawl the live DB, with whatever
screwy lousy inefficiency? FIne, just continue as you are, where that
is all that can be relied upon!
Look at the other threads: people asking if they can crawl the English
WP at one per second, or maybe what? Is that what you want? That is
what you are telling people to do, when the dump "service" says
"2009-02-12 06:52:16 pswiki: Dump in progress" at the top on the 22nd
of February.
FYI for all others: if you want content dumps of the English
Wiktionary, they are available in the usual XML format at
http://devtionary.info/w/dump/xmlu/
at ~ 09;00 UTC. Every day.
With my best regards,
Robert
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Russell Blau <russblau(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
"Andreas Meier"
<andreasmeier80(a)gmx.de> wrote in message
news:4997D645.8050605@gmx.de...
Hello,
the current dump building seem to be dead and perhaps should be killed
by hand.
Reported:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17535
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