Most operator are volunteers and don't have time to change the code every month
because there is a change in the api. Because of this devs should keep the api
backward-compatible.
Also wondering why wee need this "new" api. The old one was imho perfectly.
Was the new api coded by WMF or by volunteers?
I feel that bot operators should actively pay
attention to the technical
aspects of the community and the mailing lists.
Sorry, i disagree. Bot operators
are volunteers and not payed staffers. Most of them having a job and real live.
-- Steinsplitter
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:50:48 +0300
From: yastrakhan(a)wikimedia.org
To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
CC: mediawiki-api-announce(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query
will change at the end of this month
I feel that bot operators should actively pay attention to the technical
aspects of the community and the mailing lists. So, the bot operator who
never updates their software, doesn't pay attention to the announcements,
and ignores api warnings should be blocked after the deadline. Bot
operators do not operate in a vacuum, and should never run bots just for
the sake of running them.
Community should always be able to find and communicate with the bot
operators.
Obviously we should not make sudden changes (except in the
security/breaking matters), and try to make the process as easy as
possible. The rawcontinue param is exactly that, simply adding it will keep
the logic as before.
Lastly, I again would like to promote the idea discussed at the hackathon
-- a client side minimalistic library that bigger frameworks like pywikibot
rely on, and that is designed in part by the core developers. See the
proposal at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Minimalistic_MW_API_Cli…
On Jun 3, 2015 2:29 PM, "John Mark Vandenberg" <jayvdb(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Brad Jorsch
(Anomie)
<bjorsch(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
...
I've compiled a list of bots that have hit the deprecation warning more
than 10000 times over the course of the week May 23–29. If you are
responsible for any of these bots, please fix them. If you know who is,
please make sure they've seen this notification. Thanks.
Thank you Brad for doing impact analysis and providing a list of the
71 bots with more than 10,000 problems per week. We can try to solve
those by working with the bot operators.
If possible, could you compile a list of bots affected at a lower
threshold - maybe 1,000. That will give us a better idea of the scale
of bots operators that will be affected when this lands - currently in
one months time.
Will the deploy date be moved back if the impact doesnt diminish by
bots being fixed?
--
John Vandenberg
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