TBH, I was under the impression that the second round was going to be
narrowing down to top contenders (maybe the 3 or so top designs), not
choosing the top contender (I guess that's my fault though, it wasn't
stated anywhere that that was going to be the case or anything). It was
kind of hard to follow the first round with 20 something proposals, with
some of them benefiting from showing up earlier than others, and most of
the votes taking place during the time period where votes were allegedly
not going to count yet. I did notice that some of the people voting had
never previously edited
(Or made very few previous edits). It
kind of feels a little weird to treat this as a "vote" (and not a
"consensus" building exercise) if we don't have eligibility criteria.
I do kind of wish there was a none of the above option. Looking through the
votes, I definitely see some people saying things like "Least bad option",
which is not exactly an inspiring show of support.
--
Brian
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:50 AM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,
The first round was using the standard voting process in wikis (using
support/oppose and the thresholds like 70%) and this is the way we elect
admins, checkusers or other user rights, or change policies in Wikis. I
don't recall that there has ever been anyone elected as admin with below
70% or we have ever changed any policies with below 70% (not to mention the
runner up logos are 56% and 61%, basically for any support, they had an
opposition). Our logo is similar, no logo except proposal six could reach
seventy percent and while there were good designs that almost made it but
clearly none of them has enough support (and percentage of support) to
reach the next round. That's a pity (one of the runner ups was actually by
me) but if that's what the community wants, I happily accept it.
The second round has always been
<https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020/Round_1&diff=4006263&oldid=3997205>
about different variants of the logos that pass the first round.
HTH
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 9:30 AM Adam Wight <adam.wight(a)wikimedia.de>
wrote:
Hi, thanks for helping coordinate this process!
I have concerns about what happened between round 1 and round 2, it seems
that we're no longer left with a real choice. It's unclear what method was
used to tally the round 1
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020/Round_1>
votes, was this a "support percentage"? Whenever a vote is taken, it's
important to stick to democratic norms, basically "one person, one vote".
Round 2 is entirely variations on a single proposal, which disenfranchises
everyone who didn't prefer that design. Is it too late to discuss?
Kind regards,
Adam
On 9/25/20 11:42 PM, Amir Sarabadani wrote:
Hello,
The subject line is self-explanatory, you can go to the voting page
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020/Round_2>
and cast your vote.
This is going to continue for a month and it's about different variants
of the top contender (different colors, different wordmarks, etc.). You
need to order logos based on your preference (the most preferred one first,
the least preferred one the last) and then cast your vote. The final winner
will be chosen using Schulze method
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schulze_method>.
If you have mistakenly voted in the test phase, you can just copy your
vote from the test page
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup/Round_2/votes> to the
actual voting page
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020/Round_2/Votes>
(the numbers of logos haven't changed).
Special thank you to Chuck Roslof from WMF legal for doing the
preliminary clearance of the proposal.
Have a nice weekend!
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