In line with Bodhi's comments,
I feel that there are several other communities which have been left out in
this consultation process. I completely understand that CIS-A2K is trying
to accommodate their best to represent all the voices, but it would be even
better to include the "major" communities and movement affiliates. I know
it is too late to change Samir's plan, but it would be great if CIS-A2K can
support representatives from certain communities to participate in-person
and voice their opinion about the branding strategy. Physically
participating can have much more impact than a remote call.
All Wikimedians from Northern Indian can easily come to Delhi, and South
ones Bengaluru. At least, if you think 18th is too close, 21st in Bengaluru
can be a good option to invite some experienced Wikimedians (say five
people from communities those which haven't been consulted).
I think it is a fair decision to make.
Best,
Krishna
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rgkmc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Gopala,
>
> Thanks for the quick response. It would be great if it is possible for you
> to create a Doodle poll or similar for the online meeting.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 09:57 Gopala Krishna A, <bhat.gka666(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Bodhi,
>> Thank you for the feedback. I would like to give a small update. We will
>> arrange for an online session along with offline meet-up in Bengaluru. Date
>> and Time - 21 April 2019, 11:00AM to 2:00 PM.
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 08:41 Bodhisattwa Mandal, <
>> bodhisattwa.rgkmc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gopal,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information.
>>>
>>> Is it possible for other user groups and communities to provide him
>>> feedback somehow? If it is not possible to change the schedule in the last
>>> moment and bring him to some other places like Kolkata, is it possible to
>>> have an online session with user group and community representatives?
>>>
>>> If it is somehow possible, then please make it happen as West Bengal
>>> Wikimedians have definitely some concern on the branding proposal which
>>> needs to be addressed.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 08:29 Gopala Krishna A, <bhat.gka666(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Wikimedians,
>>>>
>>>> Greetings from A2K. In upcoming week, Wikimedia Foundation Community
>>>> brand and marketing coordinator Samir Elsharbaty
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Selsharbaty_(WMF)> is visiting
>>>> India to collect feedback from affiliates and communities in India.
>>>> Schedule will be as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 1. 16 April 2019 - Session with Hindi Wikimedians User group
>>>> members and other Wikimedians in New Delhi. This is going to takes place at
>>>> CIS office, First floor, B 1/8, Hauz Khaas, near G Block market, New Delhi
>>>> between 11 AM and 2 PM.
>>>> 2. 18 April 2019: Session with Punjabi Wikimedians User group in
>>>> Patiala between 11 AM and 2 PM.
>>>> 3. 21 April 2019: Session with CIS-A2K and Wikimedians in
>>>> Bangaluru. Event is going to take place at CIS office, No. 194, 2nd 'C'
>>>> cross, Domlur, 2nd Stage, Bengaluru between 11 AM to 2PM.
>>>>
>>>> Main agenda will be:
>>>>
>>>> - Wikimedia brand project presentation for the 2030 strategic
>>>> direction.
>>>> - Discussion and open Q&A.
>>>> - Introduction about the Wikimedia Foundation's communication's
>>>> team and their work.
>>>> - Open discussion on communications.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please read more about these sessions here and register your name for
>>>> participation:
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brand_Project_-_Community_review_…
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gopala Krishna A
>>>> Community Advocate, CIS-A2K
>>>> Contact : +918884244408
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Hi,
I have some concerns regarding this whole process which, I think, need to
be addressed as soon as possible.
As far as I have understood, Samir is coming to India to get feedback from
the Indian affiliates and communities about the re-branding proposal and
report it back to WMF. Re-branding is a very debatable proposal which will
definitely affect, in a controversial and unclear way, the future of almost
all emerging communities, affiliates and sister projects.
So, my questions are,
1) Why was information about Samir's trip to India, not declared to the
communities well ahead of time so that the communities and affiliates could
express their voices and concerns directly with preparation?
2) Who decided that visiting only Punjabi, Hindi and Bangalore communities
is sufficient enough to provide the feedback of all Indian communities? Why
were not other communities and affiliates included in the process? What
criteria these three communities met so that they can represent the voices
from all over the country and why not other communities consulted about
this?
Why is Samir staying in Patiala, Delhi and Bangalore for extra days for
local sightseeing and not utilizing the days to communicate with other
communities and who planned for this kind of schedule?
How will it be ensured to provide ample opportunity for community members
to express their opinions? Online session is not a good option as many
don't have the necessary infrastructure to do so.
There is a feeling in the community that re-branding is already a made
decision by the WMF and this kind of non-transparency further endorses that
theory.
Hoping to get positive responses.
Regards,
Manoj Kulkarni
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Date: Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 8:29 AM
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Hello Wikimedians,
Greetings from A2K. In upcoming week, Wikimedia Foundation Community brand
and marketing coordinator Samir Elsharbaty
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Selsharbaty_(WMF)> is visiting India
to collect feedback from affiliates and communities in India. Schedule will
be as follows:
1. 16 April 2019 - Session with Hindi Wikimedians User group members and
other Wikimedians in New Delhi. This is going to takes place at CIS office,
First floor, B 1/8, Hauz Khaas, near G Block market, New Delhi between 11
AM and 2 PM.
2. 18 April 2019: Session with Punjabi Wikimedians User group in Patiala
between 11 AM and 2 PM.
3. 21 April 2019: Session with CIS-A2K and Wikimedians in Bangaluru.
Event is going to take place at CIS office, No. 194, 2nd 'C' cross, Domlur,
2nd Stage, Bengaluru between 11 AM to 2PM.
Main agenda will be:
- Wikimedia brand project presentation for the 2030 strategic direction.
- Discussion and open Q&A.
- Introduction about the Wikimedia Foundation's communication's team and
their work.
- Open discussion on communications.
Please read more about these sessions here and register your name for
participation:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brand_Project_-_Community_review_…
Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.
--
Regards,
Gopala Krishna A
Community Advocate, CIS-A2K
Contact : +918884244408
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Hi,
I have some concerns regarding this whole process which, I think, need to
be addressed as soon as possible.
As far as I have understood, Samir is coming to India to get feedback from
the Indian affiliates and communities about the re-branding proposal and
report it back to WMF. Re-branding is a very debatable proposal which will
definitely affect, in a controversial and unclear way, the future of almost
all emerging communities, affiliates and sister projects.
So, my questions are,
1) Why was information about Samir's trip to India, not declared to the
communities well ahead of time so that the communities and affiliates could
express their voices and concerns directly with preparation?
2) Who decided that visiting only Punjabi, Hindi and Bangalore communities
is sufficient enough to provide the feedback of all Indian communities? Why
were not other communities and affiliates included in the process? What
criteria these three communities met so that they can represent the voices
from all over the country and why not other communities consulted about
this?
Why is Samir staying in Patiala, Delhi and Bangalore for extra days for
local sightseeing and not utilizing the days to communicate with other
communities and who planned for this kind of schedule?
How will it be ensured to provide ample opportunity for community members
to express their opinions? Online session is not a good option as many
don't have the necessary infrastructure to do so.
There is a feeling in the community that re-branding is already a made
decision by the WMF and this kind of non-transparency further endorses that
theory.
Hoping to get positive responses.
Regards,
Manoj Kulkarni
Hello Bodhi,
Thank you for the feedback. I would like to give a small update. We will
arrange for an online session along with offline meet-up in Bengaluru. Date
and Time - 21 April 2019, 11:00AM to 2:00 PM.
On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 08:41 Bodhisattwa Mandal, <bodhisattwa.rgkmc(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Gopal,
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> Is it possible for other user groups and communities to provide him
> feedback somehow? If it is not possible to change the schedule in the last
> moment and bring him to some other places like Kolkata, is it possible to
> have an online session with user group and community representatives?
>
> If it is somehow possible, then please make it happen as West Bengal
> Wikimedians have definitely some concern on the branding proposal which
> needs to be addressed.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 08:29 Gopala Krishna A, <bhat.gka666(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Wikimedians,
>>
>> Greetings from A2K. In upcoming week, Wikimedia Foundation Community
>> brand and marketing coordinator Samir Elsharbaty
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Selsharbaty_(WMF)> is visiting
>> India to collect feedback from affiliates and communities in India.
>> Schedule will be as follows:
>>
>> 1. 16 April 2019 - Session with Hindi Wikimedians User group members
>> and other Wikimedians in New Delhi. This is going to takes place at CIS
>> office, First floor, B 1/8, Hauz Khaas, near G Block market, New Delhi
>> between 11 AM and 2 PM.
>> 2. 18 April 2019: Session with Punjabi Wikimedians User group in
>> Patiala between 11 AM and 2 PM.
>> 3. 21 April 2019: Session with CIS-A2K and Wikimedians in Bangaluru.
>> Event is going to take place at CIS office, No. 194, 2nd 'C' cross, Domlur,
>> 2nd Stage, Bengaluru between 11 AM to 2PM.
>>
>> Main agenda will be:
>>
>> - Wikimedia brand project presentation for the 2030 strategic
>> direction.
>> - Discussion and open Q&A.
>> - Introduction about the Wikimedia Foundation's communication's team
>> and their work.
>> - Open discussion on communications.
>>
>>
>> Please read more about these sessions here and register your name for
>> participation:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brand_Project_-_Community_review_…
>>
>> Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Gopala Krishna A
>> Community Advocate, CIS-A2K
>> Contact : +918884244408
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Hello Wikimedians,
Greetings from A2K. In upcoming week, Wikimedia Foundation Community brand
and marketing coordinator Samir Elsharbaty
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Selsharbaty_(WMF)> is visiting India
to collect feedback from affiliates and communities in India. Schedule will
be as follows:
1. 16 April 2019 - Session with Hindi Wikimedians User group members and
other Wikimedians in New Delhi. This is going to takes place at CIS office,
First floor, B 1/8, Hauz Khaas, near G Block market, New Delhi between 11
AM and 2 PM.
2. 18 April 2019: Session with Punjabi Wikimedians User group in Patiala
between 11 AM and 2 PM.
3. 21 April 2019: Session with CIS-A2K and Wikimedians in Bangaluru.
Event is going to take place at CIS office, No. 194, 2nd 'C' cross, Domlur,
2nd Stage, Bengaluru between 11 AM to 2PM.
Main agenda will be:
- Wikimedia brand project presentation for the 2030 strategic direction.
- Discussion and open Q&A.
- Introduction about the Wikimedia Foundation's communication's team and
their work.
- Open discussion on communications.
Please read more about these sessions here and register your name for
participation:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brand_Project_-_Community_review_…
Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.
--
Regards,
Gopala Krishna A
Community Advocate, CIS-A2K
Contact : +918884244408