New subject: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] Idea of a new project: Wikifacts ?

6 Feb 2021

Sounds like a great Page/Data/Media interplay, of interest to Wikispore if
there's any need for customization.  SJ

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:37 PM Adam Sobieski &lt;adamsobieski(a)hotmail.com&gt;
wrote:

...
  A “Wikifacts” sister project is a great idea.
“Wikifacts” seems distinct
 from both Wikinews and Wikidata. With some schemas for facts, defining
 their structure and interrelations, one could, however, utilize Wikidata as
 a backend.

 Brainstorming, while I’m sure that those in these mailing lists are more
 familiar with what’s possible with wiki templates, with a “Wikifacts”
 sister project, one could envision a wiki template for explicit facts.
 Perhaps such a wiki template could resemble:

 {{fact|User content goes here.}}

 or

 {{fact|F12345678|User content goes here.}}

 With such a wiki template, editors could add explicit facts to Wikinews
 and Wikipedia articles.

 End-users could hover over explicit facts in Wikinews or Wikipedia
 articles to view information (e.g. the number of informational messages,
 warnings, or errors) about the facts in tooltips and could click on a fact
 – or on a superscript hyperlink symbol – to navigate to the fact’s
 “Wikifacts” article.

 The use of explicit facts in Wikinews or Wikipedia articles could,
 potentially, create new “Wikifacts” articles or synchronize with existing
 “Wikifacts” articles. Whenever a fact were updated or annotated via the
 “Wikifacts” project website, the editors of any dependent Wikinews or
 Wikipedia articles could receive emails, resembling how they can opt to
 watch articles for edits. Wikinews and Wikipedia editors could receive
 emails so as to be able to revisit an article if or when any facts upon
 which the article depends change.

 A “Wikifacts” project could also serve as a fact-checking resource for a
 set of end-users broader than the editors of Wikinews and Wikipedia
 articles. Through an API, end-users could perform real-time fact checking
 via “Wikifacts” while authoring or reviewing documents.

 Best regards,

 Adam

 P.S.: Thank you for the information about the Wikipragmatica proposal.

 *From: *Douglas Clark &lt;clarkdd(a)gmail.com&gt;
 *Sent: *Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:50 PM
 *To: *Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;
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 I proposed a project, WikiPragmatica
 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipragmatica>, that can support fake
 news detection. The retained context of the paraphrase graph can identify
 fake news patterns similar to what MIT does with their detector.

 On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
 galder158(a)hotmail.com&gt; wrote:

 Does Wikinews cover this aspect?

 *From:* Wikimedia-l &lt;wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; on behalf
 of Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2021 8:20 PM
 *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;
 *Cc:* Chris Gates &lt;vermont(a)vtwp.org&gt;
 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-l] Idea of a new project: Wikifacts ?

 Hello,

 Independent of my opinions on the validity of such a new Wikimedia
 project, there is currently an experiment of similar goals (and potentially
 structure) over at Twitter:

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-birdwatch-a-…

 Best,

 Verm

 On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:17 PM Leinonen Teemu &lt;teemu.leinonen(a)aalto.fi&gt;
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 Has there been any discussion to start a new Wikimedia project focusing on
 fact checking?

 Fact checking of course is in the core of editing Wikipedia, but I was
 thinking about dedicated wiki-site that is dedicated for fact checking of
 current events and news. Why this would be important?

 (1) There are many fact checking site in the English speaking world but
 much less elsewhere. I am afraid that there is still greater need for fact
 checking in the rest of the world. {{Citation needed}}

 (2) Our community is very well educated to do fact checking the wiki-way.
 Again internationally, many of our community members are real fact
 champions in their home countries and language groups. The practice of
 Wikipedia could be applied to fact checking of fast moving current events
 and news, too.

 (3) This could help us to get new young people to the movement, as editing
 Wikipedias is not anymore so easy to start (because they are so good
 already).

 (4) In many parts of the world, fact checking can also be dangerous. With
 our anonymous and community driven practices and services we could protect
 the fact checkers in many parts of the world.

 I am not sure what is the state of the Wikinews, but my impression is that
 it is not really working. It was a good idea, but maybe wiki or wiki-way is
 not the way to produce news. Also the beautiful idea of citizen journalism
 has not really become reality. Maybe we could try if wiki and the wki-way
 works better in fact checking.

 Peace,

          - Teemu

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