Hi Paul,
Thanks for clarifying: we definitely don't want to remove doi's, other
identifiers or permanent links to paywalled versions of articles. In part
this is a bit self serving: one of the only metrics we have for impact of
Wikipedia Library donations for partners is the number of links or dois
added to Wikipedia (User:Samwalton9 currently collects these manually; if
you know anyone that can help us build a tool to help make these reports
produced semi-automatically, and with historical recording, we would love
to save him the time: weigh in at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102064
). Without that metric, we don't have much of a business case for getting
the partnerships (its not all good will: for many of the publishers its
about visibility of their collections/databases). That being said, there
will never be a situation where we police volunteer use of links to partner
sources: its all based on if editors feel adding links is appropriate - it
just happens to be a good way of tracking impact.
The secondary reason for not wanting to remove links: we should definitely
be maintaining that particular location as the "authoritative version" per
WP:V, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, and any number of other good scholarly
practices. Moreover, at some point in the future, we would like to send
readers around the paywall through to their local library --> libraries
have the most clout in changing the existing publishing marketplace, and
many of our readers are entitled to some form of access through their
library. In part, we hope to do that through educating readers; for
example, we would like to pilot on reference sections links to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Research_help
(see concepts at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Research_help…
). In part, we had hoped to use one of OCLCs tools to make it easier (after
about a 1.5 year discussion, Jake ended up not getting a commitment of
developer support changes in their platform to make this happen), but would
be open to supporting other tools that resolve editors to their local
library's database access if its available. Our soon to be announced
partnership with EBSCO will send readers to a portal on their end that
suggests a local library, as does JSTOR and a couple of our other partners
websites. However, it would be preferable to be able to do this on the
Wikipedia side, before showing up at the paywalled database, where there
are asks for pay-per-use, etc.
If anyone on the list has ideas, strategies, or connections to people that
could help us be better at both promoting OA and resolving readers and
editors to authoritative sources, please let us know on or off list.
Cheers,
Alex Stinson
Project Manager
The Wikipedia Library
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Paul S. Wilson <paulscrawl(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Never assume OA or otherwise freely accessible
articles are in any way
full or adequate substitutes for articles as published in scholarly
journals.
Editorial and referee suggestions incorporated into the published version,
figures, tables, pictures under copyright, links to statistical and other
supporting data, copyrighted textual extracts of some length - the list of *commonly
missing features of scholarly import in self-archived and institutionally
archived pre-pub and OA versions* goes on and on... ,
*Pagination* is crucial in many fields and OA and pre-pub versions
frequently have no correlation with pagination of published version.
OA or pre-pub version linkage may helpfully *supplement*, but should
never *replace* link to official scholarly publication.
Bots may usefully append freely accessible version, but should not revise
existing citation and linkage to officially published version, universally
cited in scholarship.
The relevant Wikipedia Policy is Verifiability
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability> - accessibility
and paywalls are addressed on that Policy page.
Paul S. Wilson
"Paulscrawl"
Research Coordinator
The Wikipedia Library
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