--- Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Having references at the end of every article may
give the apperance
of being more credible.
However, many sources I might quote might have
incorrect information,
or could be fabricated.
That is true, this issue was brought up and discussed
in our project a while back so I have the benefit of
knowing the answer :). Hopefully after the first step
of acutally getting the intelligent foot/end notes
working (intelligent meaning it autonumbers,
autoquotes, autobrings you to the passage when clicked
etc) we can go onto the second step of a verification
system for the actual references.
One way to prevent people from citing phony facts is
to have people being able to verify a fact by signing
it. Multiple people would be able to look up a fact,
say in a book, and sign to the fact that it exists.
You'd then have a system that looks like this:
Fact 1 - Reference from source 1 - Person A says it
exists
Fact 1 - Reference from source 1 - Person B says it
exists
Fact 1 - Reference from source 2 - Person A says it
exists
Fact 1 - Reference from source 2 - Person C says it
exists
Obvisally if someone says the reference exists, and
someone else says the reference does not that is a
large issue, but one easily solved (i.e. a committe
will go and look for the book / article / etc. to
verify it). Conflicts of references can be arbitrated
on by this committe, with fakers being quickly weeded
out.
Shaun MacPherson
Many people seem to feel more comfortable with print
media and seem to
think that if it's in print, it must be true, but in
reality you
shouldn't trust print articles and books anymore
than you trust their
Internet counterparts.
Mark
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 23:43:45 -0500 (EST), Shaun
MacPherson
<shaun_macpherson2001(a)yahoo.ca> wrote:
Sorry I forgot to invite you all to use
(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fact_and_Reference_…)
as an area for
us to discuss this issue. The
Wikitechs will beat you there now ;).
Shaun MacPherson
--- Shaun MacPherson
<shaun_macpherson2001(a)yahoo.ca>
wrote:
> Larry Sanger believes that the solution to make
> Wikipedia more credible are with experts. You
can
see
a good article descriping his criticisms here (
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/03/144207&tid=95&tid=1
> ) posted
on Jan 3, 2004.
>
> I think the easiest way to make Wikipedia more
> credible is with a Fact and Reference Project,
which
> the community has been developing over a
period
of
more than
a few months now: (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Fact_and_Reference_Check
> ).
>
> The thing holding this project back, and
ultimately
> Wikipedia from sheading the skin of being
> 'noncredible' is the lack of intelligent
foot/end
> notes. A way to format an article with
> autonumbering
> endnotes for crossreferencing is lacking. I am
sure
> with this feature programmed in this project
can
be
> on
> its way to cross referencing all facts on
Wikipedia.
>
> You can see some examples offoot/endnote
formatting
> template here. JesseW has put much effort
into
> trying
> to create a formating guide here (
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Footnotes )
> and
> another guide here (
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cite_sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Fact_and_Reference_Check…
> ).
>
> How credible will Wikipedia be if each fact is
> crossreferenced with 5, 10, 20 external sources
like
academic
journals, encyclopedias, books? Very.
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