Actually, no, some Americans, myself included, think it bends over backwards to make the
French feel good while making the Americans look bad, something that is done with great
regularity on Wikipedia. Zoe
Anthere <anthere6(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)bomis.com> wrote:
"Anti-French sentiment in the United States" is a somewhat balanced
article, but is it _encyclopedic_? At the very least, it needs a
better title, one more closely matching the contents, which are
strongly linked to current events. Point is the americans think it balanced, when the
french think it is not balanced. Hence, by definition, if some think this article is not
fair, it is not NPOV.
I think there is a valid topic lurking here, but to be encyclopedic, I
think we need to place the current state of French-American relations
into the context of history. America and France have had a love-hate
relationship for a very long time, and the cultural friction between
us is not simply the product of current events.
--Jimbo
You are right. I forgot his name, but one person decided to start an *historical*
[[anti-french sentiment in the United-States]]. It appears to me the point of replacing it
in an historical context is a good move; much better than focusing on couple of months old
(or even couple of years old) events. The current article will result in an article of a
deceiving viability on the long term. Besides, replacing an article in historical context
will attract more historians, who show integrity. However, as regards Chadolar (well, the
person with this type of name, I really apologize for not remembering) is planning to do,
I think we are heading directly in an article even more biaised than this one, and even
more offending to french people. The fact is, it is not good for an article to be just a
collection of facts poorly reflecting a more global feeling. For the ones hated can only
watch being displayed in dismay a list of facts they can not reflect on. With such a list
as the one currently provided, there is little that can be done to try to explain why it
is so, and why now, and why perhaps hate is not justified sometimes, and the different
patterns of love and hate. It is certainly interesting for french people to read such a
list of reasons to hate us, a collection of proofs of hateful feeling, for as we already
privately discussed it together, we are not aware really of the level of hate you
currently feel for us.But, I wonder which interest this type of article has on american
people, except for fondly recollecting their emotions, except of nourrishing their
resentment with further facts they had not been aware of, except for having a good time
writing it and having fun at our reaction reading it. In short, I don't think an
encyclopedic article only dealing with one side of a relationship can be anything else
than unbalanced. In particular because many people writing the article are *not* having
any intention for it to be fair. It appears to me that if such a wider article was to be
written, it should be more something like [[Relationship between France and United
States]] or [[Americans-French relationships]]. Then, we can start communicating instead
of bashing, reflecting instead of ruminating aggressive feelings, learning of both sides,
and perhaps adding some water in the wine (well...americans need to stop pouring the
french wine on french imported cars before, right ?). And also, seeing there are some hate
feelings, as well as love feelings.I think it potentially more fruitful. And then, I will
renew my son american passport.
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