I just made a wonderful table illustrating grammatical aspects of
Hakka which set it apart from Baihuawen: the existance of dual
pronouns, the trisyllabic nature of dual and plural pronouns, etc.
See the section of
labelled "kheh-oe"
Mark
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:03:13 +0800, Alex Y. Kwan <litalex(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Sheng Jiong wrote:
I have been called talking "crap". I
would appreciate if you can argue
using facts and not simply call other people's opinions "crap" too.
I, afaik, have never called your words "crap" and if I have, I
apologize. What I object to, however, is your constant attempts to
demean other people's entirely sincere efforts in creating another
wikipedia. The point I'm trying to bring up isn't if their/our project
is viable or not, but that your very attitude of disdain implies that
you entered into this discussion merely to ridicule those of us who wish
to see our proposal accepted.
Maybe you can. But has majority of the Hong
Kongers start writing
Cantonese down?
I don't know; I've never done a poll about it. But if push comes to
shove, I'd say yes, of course yes. For fun, for short messages, for
memos, for online BBS, whatever, but yes. You've been asking this
question repeatedly, and I, along with everyone else, have been giving
the same answer.
Well, that I should ask you people. I find myself
engaged in a flame
war with three persons whose total number of contributions to
Wikipedia are less than that of mine alone.
...You consider this a flame war?! I've been trying to be nothing but
perfectly polite. You're the one whom I consider...discourteous.
And how'd you know whether your contributions are more or less than
those of us?
And remind you, if you have not already known,
one of Chinese
Wikipedia's founding member, [[User:Lorenzarius]], was from Hong Kong.
And he was one of the main opposer of splitting Chinese Wikipedia into
Simplified and Traditional version before there was a conversion
script. And [[User:Tomchiukc]] is still an active Hong Kong
Wikipedian.
That's...not relevant to this particular discussion. Good for them, yay
Hong Kong.
And I'll refrain myself from any discussion about Traditional vs.
Simplified Chinese.
Chinese Wikipedian community is relatively
small(if you count active
contributors, I think there are less than 100), and to have 2 very
active users from Hong Kong is already an achievement, considering the
percentage of Chinese users in Hong Kong in comparison with mainland
China.
Now you're implying something about HKers that I don't have the time to
discern. I actually don't find it surprising at all that there are so
"many" HKers contributing in wikipedia, but to get into the reasons
would be...rude to the mainland Chinese.
Because you are showing me exceptions. I am sure
your being able to
sit here and write means you should be able to understand what is
"widely accepted".
Again, just because we're on different sides of an issue doesn't mean
you need to try to insult your opponents.
little Alex
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