Thanks Peter,
let's always remember that "those who cannot or will not edit" for now
includes the majority of individual (as opposed to majority of
usage-incident) Wikipedia users who a) struggle with connectivity and b)
are probably non-hegemonic-language speakers even though they accept that
hegemonic-language WPs (currently English, French, German, Arabic, Spanish,
Mandarin) have the most useful reference resources.
That said, we do have a duty of care to emphasise that static/offline wikis
are a compromise and that editing by all should be a default position. Note
that offline resources offered by Kiwix can include WikiFundi which *is*
editable, although the issue of version control is thereby complicated.
Regards,
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> I am not an expert, but from what I understand it looks like a good thing
> for those who cannot or will not edit. It will not help build the
> encyclopaedias, but at least could make what exists more accessible.
> Cheers,
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> Dear Wikimedians,
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> I'm sharing with all of you a digest email from the "offline-l list"
to
> which I subscribe since I believe it has two items of wider interest than
> the usual ones on that list.
>
> The first one concerns a new facility called Open ZIMfarm which automates
> the curation of offline archives of web material (not just wikis). I
> believe this is bringing a step-change in the possibilities of
> decentralised content hosting.
>
> The second describes the recent deployment of the Kiwix-serve application
> in a commercial telecoms network in West Africa (Kiwix stores and presents
> the very same ZIM files created by ZIMfarm). Given that the Wikimedia
> Foundation no longer funds zero-rating of its products, this represents a
> new way to bring content to people free of charge. Not only cellular
> networks but local-government-supported WiFi providers such as Project
> Isizwe as well as community-owned and -operated networks can do this.
>
> I will be interested to know the feelings of the community on these.
>
> Regards,
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> 1. Re: [KIWIX] Our openZIM farm... (Samuel Klein)
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> From: Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com>
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> Wow, this is fabulous. If a new zimfarm starts up, can it coordinate with
> existing ones?
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 3:23 AM Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson(a)kiwix.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > There is a topic I wanted to talk about here for a long time and for
> > which I never have achieved to take the time to write something. A few
> > recent events have been a healthy remember that I should present one our
> > most recent and most useful tool: Zimfarm.
> >
> > The Zimfarm is the online tool which is in charge of building and
> > publishing all our ZIM files. After years of creating ZIM files by
> > launching scrapers more or less manually, we had to automatise the
> > process to just be able to scale the operations, ie. publishing more and
> > more often ZIM files.
> >
> > The effort started 3 years ago with the support of the WMF but we use it
> > only since Spring 2019 in production. The tool is now perfectly running
> > and we fully rely on it now. If we can publish an update of all our
> > wikis one time a month, this is thanks to this piece of software too.
> >
> > The Zimfarm is a half-decentralized solution which has a central node
> > (called "dispatcher") in charge of orchestrating the work to do and
> > multiple decentralized nodes (called "workers") which run the
scraping
> > tasks.
> >
> > The dispatcher provides an API to manage the ZIM recipes and tasks, have
> > a look to
https://api.farm.openzim.org/. We have setup a Web frontend on
> > this API to allow easy mgmt through a Web browser. For a better
> > transparency, even anonymous users can have a look and monitor what is
> > going on. Look at
https://farm.openzim.org/.
> >
> > One important point is that, like all the rest of our infrastructure,
> > the whole system is Dockerized. Which means, this is really easy to
> > install a Zimfarm worker and we invite anybody having a spare server to
> > help us to provide offline snapshots of the best of the Web. The
> > procedure is documented and a few volunteers have already joined in.
> > Look at
https://farm.openzim.org/about for more details.
> >
> > The development is fully transparent at
> >
https://github.com/openzim/zimfarm. We have a few things which are on
> > the roadmap which would welcome volunteer Python developers. Look at the
> > good first issues and make your first PR!
> >
> >
>
>
https://github.com/openzim/zimfarm/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%2…
> >
> > Regards
> > Emmanuel
> >
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