Hi Tom, I'm feeling good as I just had a press release from Monmouth County Council and I made the point that it was "Wikimedia UK" they were partnering with - a*nd we should be mentioned*. I agree that John Cummings comment is spot on. He isnt a Wikipedia old lag but quite a new Wikipedian. He is the only wikipedian as far as I know in Monmouth. We are going to try and pull off an amazing stunt of taking one Wikipedian and creating 1,000 QR codes in a town that has no other known editors. John cannot do this .... Monmouth and Wikimedia UK can. Lots of coverage to day from The Next Web et al, BBC Wales Radio and TV and we're on Radio 4 next week. We also have "promises" of longer features. My own target is that we get a TV programme out of this. The story "broke" because John got a bit published in the Monmouth Beacon and the press ran with it. I'm not surprised, this a "meme" of an idea. The project has not been hidden but I guess it has not occupied much board time as the idea is so simple and everyone I've spoklen to just says "got it .... lets do it". The only investment so far has been persuading "the town" that they want to do it..... and we have had no one say No, nearly everyone has said "yes ... how can we help". We have had a few who wanted to think about it, but we made it clear that this wasn't an option. We already have a university, several societies, 2/3 museums, councillors and civic societies etc committed. Initial funding is agreed. This is a great chance for Wikimedia UK to show what it can do. It would be great if some of our members searched out some Monmouth articles or looked at the Monmouthpedia project pages and started helping.* I would request however that people resist giving "a quick lesson in what you are doing wrong" to a newbie until we have helped them four of five times. * Anybody got some time to assist? It would be great to demonstrate how we collaborate to create something better then any of us can do alone. I'm (desperately) hoping someone surprises me Roger On 30 December 2011 16:10, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- Roger Bamkin _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Richard, They've got a VC and two museums including http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Monmouth_Regimental_Museumwhich even has an Armoured car outside. WSC On 30 December 2011 18:50, Richard Symonds <chasemewiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST PLEASE. Thank you From: Richard Symonds <chasemewiki(a)gmail.com> To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 30 December 2011, 23:16 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia I've just found the six ships named HMS Monmouth. It'd be nice to get a plaque inside the wardroom (officer's mess) of the most recent one! On 30 December 2011 23:00, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote: Richard, They've got a VC and two museums including http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Monmouth_Regimental_Museum which even has an Armoured car outside. WSC On 30 December 2011 18:50, Richard Symonds <chasemewiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm going to spend tonight looking for some MilHist related articles... On 30 December 2011 17:14, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi Tom, I'm feeling good as I just had a press release from Monmouth County Council and I made the point that it was "Wikimedia UK" they were partnering with - and we should be mentioned. I agree that John Cummings comment is spot on. He isnt a Wikipedia old lag but quite a new Wikipedian. He is the only wikipedian as far as I know in Monmouth. We are going to try and pull off an amazing stunt of taking one Wikipedian and creating 1,000 QR codes in a town that has no other known editors. John cannot do this .... Monmouth and Wikimedia UK can. Lots of coverage to day from The Next Web et al, BBC Wales Radio and TV and we're on Radio 4 next week. We also have "promises" of longer features. My own target is that we get a TV programme out of this. The story "broke" because John got a bit published in the Monmouth Beacon and the press ran with it. I'm not surprised, this a "meme" of an idea. The project has not been hidden but I guess it has not occupied much board time as the idea is so simple and everyone I've spoklen to just says "got it .... lets do it". The only investment so far has been persuading "the town" that they want to do it..... and we have had no one say No, nearly everyone has said "yes ... how can we help". We have had a few who wanted to think about it, but we made it clear that this wasn't an option. We already have a university, several societies, 2/3 museums, councillors and civic societies etc committed. Initial funding is agreed. This is a great chance for Wikimedia UK to show what it can do. It would be great if some of our members searched out some Monmouth articles or looked at the Monmouthpedia project pages and started helping. I would request however that people resist giving "a quick lesson in what you are doing wrong" to a newbie until we have helped them four of five times. Anybody got some time to assist? It would be great to demonstrate how we collaborate to create something better then any of us can do alone. I'm (desperately) hoping someone surprises me Roger On 30 December 2011 16:10, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-16359364 I've just seen this article. I'd somehow missed this is the planning stages (I was vaguely aware of some discussion about qr codes, but hadn't realised anything had progressed this far) - it looks like a great idea. It's a good article too, I particularly like the quote from John about being told he should implement his idea himself - that's exactly the attitude wmuk should have and we should make everyone aware of that. The only thing I don't like about the article is that it makes it sound like a Wikipedia project, rather than a Wikimedia UK project. It's not a big deal, but we should try and get the chapter's role more emphasis. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Hi Tom, I'm feeling good as I just had a press release from Monmouth County Council and I made the point that it was "Wikimedia UK" they were partnering with - and we should be mentioned. I agree that John Cummings comment is spot on. He isnt a Wikipedia old lag but quite a new Wikipedian. He is the only wikipedian as far as I know in Monmouth. We are going to try and pull off an amazing stunt of taking one Wikipedian and creating 1,000 QR codes in a town that has no other known editors. John cannot do this .... Monmouth and Wikimedia UK can. Lots of coverage to day from The Next Web et al, BBC Wales Radio and TV and we're on Radio 4 next week. We also have "promises" of longer features. My own target is that we get a TV programme out of this. The story "broke" because John got a bit published in the Monmouth Beacon and the press ran with it. I'm not surprised, this a "meme" of an idea. The project has not been hidden but I guess it has not occupied much board time as the idea is so simple and everyone I've spoklen to just says "got it .... lets do it". The only investment so far has been persuading "the town" that they want to do it..... and we have had no one say No, nearly everyone has said "yes ... how can we help". We have had a few who wanted to think about it, but we made it clear that this wasn't an option. We already have a university, several societies, 2/3 museums, councillors and civic societies etc committed. Initial funding is agreed. This is a great chance for Wikimedia UK to show what it can do. It would be great if some of our members searched out some Monmouth articles or looked at the Monmouthpedia project pages and started helping. I would request however that people resist giving "a quick lesson in what you are doing wrong" to a newbie until we have helped them four of five times. Anybody got some time to assist? It would be great to demonstrate how we collaborate to create something better then any of us can do alone. I'm (desperately) hoping someone surprises me Roger

I would agree about the difficulty of getting access to local sources (although I might have a go at Monmouth Castle which deserves a better article than it has got), but I wondered how broadly Monmouthpedia is being interpreted? The Monmouth Rebellion is relevant to my neck of the woods - but probably not that significant for the town - would that be included? Rod The problem you hit rather quickly is that while it is fairly easy to write local history about your local area (your local library will have sources) writing local history about a more distant place is far more difficult. Monmouth Archaeological Society also appears to have a fairly limited set of publications which is a pity since local Archaeological Societies are usually a fairly good of material for articles. -- geni _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4713 - Release Date: 12/30/11 _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote: HUGE WIN! What was the process of convincing them? That's definitely one to duplicate! - d. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

So I think the rebellion is named after the Duke of Monmouth - ie tricky to link to [[Monmouth, Wales]]

Armoured Car, and Ship - Yes we should be able to link the QR codes Monmouth Castle - Go for it! There are lots of ideas on MonmouthpediA pages. Some are people who may be local to you in fame but born in Monmouth.

On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote: to In a slightly convoluted mode, I believe the ship is as well. (At some point in the past few centuries it was decided that he was All Right After All, etc.) be Is there a WP Monmouth[shire]? If not, this may be a good idea to kickstart one - identify relevant articles, start projecttagging, etc. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Aah I thought it unusual that you'd name ships after an illigitamete traitorous Duke .... although in time all is forgiven

On 31 Dec 2011, at 11:32, Roger Bamkin wrote: "have the lot" - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011.. Is there a link here with Wikisource? Do they have digitized documents that could be hosted there? Or is there scope for a crowdsourced digitisation project here? I've done a quick scout around Wikisource and archive.org to see what's there, but there isn't too much: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Monmouth Mostly focused on Geoffrey of Monmouth. There's a book related to the [[Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers]] available on archive, which Richard might be interested in. Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

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On 31 Dec 2011, at 11:32, Roger Bamkin wrote: "have the lot" - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011.. Is there a link here with Wikisource? Do they have digitized documents that could be hosted there? Or is there scope for a crowdsourced digitisation project here? I've done a quick scout around Wikisource and archive.org to see what's there, but there isn't too much: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Monmouth Mostly focused on Geoffrey of Monmouth. There's a book related to the [[Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers]] available on archive, which Richard might be interested in. Thanks, Mike

I did have a problem getting the Monmouthshire map to work in the infobox so it currently has the Wales map instead.

Hi Tom, I'm feeling good as I just had a press release from Monmouth County Council and I made the point that it was "Wikimedia UK" they were partnering with - a*nd we should be mentioned*. I agree that John Cummings comment is spot on. He isnt a Wikipedia old lag but quite a new Wikipedian. He is the only wikipedian as far as I know in Monmouth. We are going to try and pull off an amazing stunt of taking one Wikipedian and creating 1,000 QR codes in a town that has no other known editors. John cannot do this .... Monmouth and Wikimedia UK can. Lots of coverage to day from The Next Web et al, BBC Wales Radio and TV and we're on Radio 4 next week. We also have "promises" of longer features. My own target is that we get a TV programme out of this. The story "broke" because John got a bit published in the Monmouth Beacon and the press ran with it. I'm not surprised, this a "meme" of an idea. The project has not been hidden but I guess it has not occupied much board time as the idea is so simple and everyone I've spoklen to just says "got it .... lets do it". The only investment so far has been persuading "the town" that they want to do it..... and we have had no one say No, nearly everyone has said "yes ... how can we help". We have had a few who wanted to think about it, but we made it clear that this wasn't an option. We already have a university, several societies, 2/3 museums, councillors and civic societies etc committed. Initial funding is agreed. This is a great chance for Wikimedia UK to show what it can do. It would be great if some of our members searched out some Monmouth articles or looked at the Monmouthpedia project pages and started helping./I would request however that people resist giving "a quick lesson in what you are doing wrong" to a newbie until we have helped them four of five times. / Anybody got some time to assist? It would be great to demonstrate how we collaborate to create something better then any of us can do alone. I'm (desperately) hoping someone surprises me Roger On 30 December 2011 16:10, Thomas Dalton &lt;thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com <mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com>> wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-16359364 I've just seen this article. I'd somehow missed this is the planning stages (I was vaguely aware of some discussion about qr codes, but hadn't realised anything had progressed this far) - it looks like a great idea. It's a good article too, I particularly like the quote from John about being told he should implement his idea himself - that's exactly the attitude wmuk should have and we should make everyone aware of that. The only thing I don't like about the article is that it makes it sound like a Wikipedia project, rather than a Wikimedia UK project. It's not a big deal, but we should try and get the chapter's role more emphasis. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Notability is still an issue Gordon. However the rules for places are "its on a map" and we will do histioric buildings but not every 1960s Church. AGF I think .... you will be surprised. We pulled out 100 items at Derby Museum and none were challenged on notability. Roger.

On 31 December 2011 21:54, Gordon Joly&lt;gordon.joly(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote: Work down to the borough level. Walthamstow has an active historical society, for instance, who have churned out reams of highly citable text. Start at the local library and local museums and work outwards. - d.

If someone could offer a similar deal in another town then I guess we would be (a bit) interested

OK I was maybe exagerating a point. But the point (as you say) is that this is interesting as a pilot. If successful then we end up with variations on the theme, but if we are to create a scalable model then they will need to work without the national media focus etc that MonmouthpediA is enjoying.

We've got some competition, it seems, from Ahmedabad, where there will be 230 people taking photos on Tuesday. Maybe someone should get in touch with them about QRpedia as well? :-D http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_wikimedia-commons-to-feature-more-of-a… Chris

On 01/01/2012 15:25, Roger Bamkin wrote: I think I had this in mind (and maybe not a close concept?) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_London which I perceive as a "pure" Wikipedia project, like the Beer Project. "New users should note that Wikipedia articles must have notability. (i.e. neither my mum, my dad or the house where I was born has a Wikipedia article). If you do write an article on something which the community decide is not important (ie not notable) then it will be deleted and this project can only offer sympathy. If you choose people from Who's Who and places that are on maps then you are O.K. Old important churches yes, any old church built in the 1960's .... probably not. That said .... have a go! BE BOLD!" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/MonmouthpediA/Planned_Articles Let us hope the good people of Monmouth (and beyond) will "em" bold "em", and not be put off Wikipedia for a few weeks/months/years (as I was).... Gordo -- Gordon Joly gordon.joly(a)pobox.com http://www.joly.org.uk/ Don't Leave Space To The Professionals! _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

On 31/12/2011 21:20, Roger Bamkin wrote: OK. Sure. So why is Monmouth so different from.... London (UK)? As a project? Gordo