"It goes to show, said Hyde, “never trust Wikipedia”." Eh, naw pal. It goes to show that your security firm need an utter bollocking. (I used to work in music venue management, for 2 big UK venue groups) People try and fool their way backstage with all kinds of stuff, and some of it is benign, and some of it is not. You DO NOT let ANYONE past a backstage security checkpoint without accreditation. This is basic, basic stuff. If you're not sure, you call your manager, the venue manager or the tour manager. Harrumph. Sara, annoyed, Scotland. ________________________________ From: Wikimediauk-l &lt;wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; on behalf of Michael Peel &lt;email(a)mikepeel.net&gt; Sent: 15 February 2017 13:01 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Media enquiry from the BBC re editing/vandalism It's not the first time this kind of thing has happened: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/03/peking-duk-fan-infiltrat… [https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d71a9095a023bdbceef003254d6e7b1317ee0348/0_1… Peking Duk fan infiltrates backstage by fooling security ...<https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/03/peking-duk-fan-infiltrates-backstage-by-fooling-security-guard-with-wikipedia-edit> www.theguardian.com Peking Duk at the Aria awards. Fan David Spargo wrote ‘thanks for the evening lads’ after fooling a security guard to allow him back stage at their Melbourne show. and wasn't there another incident like this last year? (I'm in the wrong hemisphere now to help with this kind of thing in the UK, sorry.) Thanks, Mike On 15 Feb 2017, at 09:25, Lucy Crompton-Reid <lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.uk<mailto:lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.uk>> wrote: Dear all Firstly, many thanks to those of you who have said you would consider responding to Wikimedia press enquiries in future, and I will be emailing more about that within the next few days - particularly off the back of the Media Handling and Crisis Communications course I've been on for the past two days (and no, the irony of the timing wasn't lost on me). In the meantime, we've had an enquiry from BBC North West online who are working on a story about a music fan who apparently secured entry to the VIP area of a gig by editing the band’s Wikipedia page to claim he was a relative of one of the members. More fool the bouncers in my opinion but anyway...the BBC has asked "we wanted to check that this change would have indeed been processed this quickly and without being verified by Wiki editors? Would Wikipedia be interested in adding a comment about users making edits for their own means and what the organisation does to tackle this?" Clearly the journalist in question doesn't understand exactly how editing works and I think it would be most appropriate to have an editor respond to this, and talk about processes in place to deal with vandalism. The article is The Sherlocks<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sherlocks> and the edit in question was made on 10th February at 8.28pm and reverted by another editor at 4.15pm the following day. Would anyone be willing to talk to the BBC about this today? If so, could you let me know and I'll put you in touch. Thanks Lucy -- Lucy Crompton-Reid Chief Executive Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0991 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org<mailto:wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

See there you go, being all logical.... [😉] S ________________________________ From: Wikimediauk-l &lt;wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; on behalf of Lucy Crompton-Reid &lt;lucy.crompton-reid(a)wikimedia.org.uk&gt; Sent: 15 February 2017 14:03 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Media enquiry from the BBC re editing/vandalism Totally agree Sara! But given that the BBC are running with this as a 'story', it would be great if we could also educate people a bit about how Wikipedia works ;) On 15 February 2017 at 13:45, Sara Thomas <sa.thomas@live.com<mailto:sa.thomas@live.com>> wrote: "It goes to show, said Hyde, “never trust Wikipedia”." Eh, naw pal. It goes to show that your security firm need an utter bollocking. (I used to work in music venue management, for 2 big UK venue groups) People try and fool their way backstage with all kinds of stuff, and some of it is benign, and some of it is not. You DO NOT let ANYONE past a backstage security checkpoint without accreditation. This is basic, basic stuff. If you're not sure, you call your manager, the venue manager or the tour manager. Harrumph. Sara, annoyed, Scotland. ________________________________ From: Wikimediauk-l <wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>> on behalf of Michael Peel <email@mikepeel.net<mailto:email@mikepeel.net>> Sent: 15 February 2017 13:01 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Media enquiry from the BBC re editing/vandalism It's not the first time this kind of thing has happened: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/03/peking-duk-fan-infiltrat… [https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d71a9095a023bdbceef003254d6e7b1317ee0348/0_1… Peking Duk fan infiltrates backstage by fooling security ...<https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/03/peking-duk-fan-infiltrates-backstage-by-fooling-security-guard-with-wikipedia-edit> www.theguardian.com<http://www.theguardian.com> Peking Duk at the Aria awards. Fan David Spargo wrote ‘thanks for the evening lads’ after fooling a security guard to allow him back stage at their Melbourne show. and wasn't there another incident like this last year? (I'm in the wrong hemisphere now to help with this kind of thing in the UK, sorry.) Thanks, Mike On 15 Feb 2017, at 09:25, Lucy Crompton-Reid <lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.uk<mailto:lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.uk>> wrote: Dear all Firstly, many thanks to those of you who have said you would consider responding to Wikimedia press enquiries in future, and I will be emailing more about that within the next few days - particularly off the back of the Media Handling and Crisis Communications course I've been on for the past two days (and no, the irony of the timing wasn't lost on me). In the meantime, we've had an enquiry from BBC North West online who are working on a story about a music fan who apparently secured entry to the VIP area of a gig by editing the band’s Wikipedia page to claim he was a relative of one of the members. More fool the bouncers in my opinion but anyway...the BBC has asked "we wanted to check that this change would have indeed been processed this quickly and without being verified by Wiki editors? Would Wikipedia be interested in adding a comment about users making edits for their own means and what the organisation does to tackle this?" Clearly the journalist in question doesn't understand exactly how editing works and I think it would be most appropriate to have an editor respond to this, and talk about processes in place to deal with vandalism. The article is The Sherlocks<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sherlocks> and the edit in question was made on 10th February at 8.28pm and reverted by another editor at 4.15pm the following day. Would anyone be willing to talk to the BBC about this today? If so, could you let me know and I'll put you in touch. Thanks Lucy -- Lucy Crompton-Reid Chief Executive Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0991<tel:+44%2020%207065%200991> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org<mailto:wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org<mailto:wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Lucy Crompton-Reid Chief Executive Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0991 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.

Thanks Andy! On 15 February 2017 at 15:08, Andy Mabbett &lt;andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk&gt; wrote: -- Lucy Crompton-Reid Chief Executive Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0991 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*