On Thu, August 28, 2008 12:25, Arkady Rose wrote: Arkady, may I thank you for all you have done for Wiki Educational Resources Ltd since you got involved with the organisation, and I fully accept and understand your reasons for declining to continue. As I had previously noted I was not planning on remaining a Director post the AGM and this change in your status now, rather than at the AGM when you had indicated to the Board that you also would not seek re-election, means that I must consider carefully what is in the best interests of both Wiki Educational Resources Ltd and of the future operations of Wikmedia UK. Since WMUK was founded we have had one problem after another, some with respect to the relationship with WMF, some with the closer to home UK banking system that insists on basing judgements about a Corporation on the personal details of the members of its Board. One delayed us a year, the other all the way until now and with no immediate sight of a resolution. To date, Wiki Educational Resources Ltd has received little external monies and these have been paid towards the expenses incurred in setting up the Company and carrying out its proper activities. Monies are still owed to various individuals however the Company has no assets to cover them and is, presently, unlikely to have a suitable income stream in the near future to do so. I have been considering for some time what the best option for the future of WMUK is and, regrettably, I feel that Wiki Educational Resources Ltd, being the present holder of a contract with Wikimedia Foundation Inc for the use of the relevant trademarks, is not likely to be the best long-term holder of that contract in the current situation. As such, I am proposing with immediate effect that Wiki Educational Resources Ltd be wound up in accordance with Article 8 of the Memorandum of Association and an EGM will be called to that end. The contract with the Wikimedia Foundation Inc will thus fall aside (it is not transferable) and there are not other assets or benefits to distributed or passed on to other organisations. For myself I am willing to forego repayment of the outstanding expenses I have incurred on behalf of Wikimedia UK and Wiki Educational Resources Ltd, and hope that others will do so to in order to expedite the process. Any applications received for membership are hereby declined. Thank you for your interest. Papers requesting that Wiki Educational Resources Ltd be struck off the register of Companies will be filed with Companies House immediately after the EGM calling for the dissolution of the Company. Thank you all, Alison Wheeler for Wiki Educational Resources Ltd _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:38:49 +0100> From: wikimedia(a)alisonwheeler.com> To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Dissolution of Wiki Educational Resources Ltd> > On Thu, August 28, 2008 13:35, Gary Kirk wrote:> > Sorry it has come to this.> > Ditto. *Very* ditto :-(> > > Where does this leave the Oxford bid for Wikimania 2010?> > Same place it was beforehand, I guess. Wikimania is a self-organised group> of people arranging the con, in the first instance, and I see nothing> about this change in status which will affect that in the short term.> > Alison> > > _______________________________________________> Wikimedia UK mailing list> wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:46:41 +0100> From: thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com&gt; To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Dissolution of Wiki Educational Resources Ltd> > 2008/8/28 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet@hotmail.co.uk>:> >> > Is there anyway of keeping this company alive?> > Sure. Don't dissolve it, hold an AGM and hand over to a new board. I'm> sure Alison has her reasons for wanting to do it this way, but I> certainly don't know what they are.> > _______________________________________________> Wikimedia UK mailing list> wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org&gt; http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

But may I repeat that a new company can take advantage of the Charities Act 2006 which might help incorporation (e.g. becoming a charity and company limited by guarantee at the same time).

2008/8/28 Gary Kirk &lt;gary.kirk(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: About the only formal difference is that it now talks directly to the WMF to use wikimedia trademarks

Nonetheless UK charitable status would help keep our costs down for the bid. Perhaps we should just register the bid as a charity, unless people want to try and rush through the creation of a new WMUK... Thomas? Joseph?

Nonetheless UK charitable status would help keep our costs down for the bid. Perhaps we should just register the bid as a charity, unless people want to try and rush through the creation of a new WMUK... Thomas? Joseph?

There is an alternative to a Limited Company and a Charity in the UK now. It is called a Not-for-Profit organisation, I think. Would be simpler than a charity to set up.

Without wanting to hack around on topics that are now not really of interest anymore, but a "credit scoring problem" was never mentioned in relation to opening the bank account. Ian

2008/8/28 Tom Holden &lt;thomas.holden(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: I doubt there would be much difference in level of effort required to create a charity for the bid compared to creating a new chapter. Next london meetup already has 11 people signed up. may be able to push that higher if you want to discuss forming a new chapter with people actually in meat space.