On 30 July 2011 16:18, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm very pleased to say that our long-planned collaboration with the > National Maritime Museum is now happening. > They have released a lot of info from their internal research on Royal

> warships on their website: >

> (it says CC-BY-NC but the NC bit is a typo and will soon be corrected) > > I've set up a project page for this on-wiki, please do have a look and

Good. Any chance of them letting us take some pics of their ship models? -- geni _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Good point. I don't suppose you know how many of them are British *war*ships?

On 30/07/2011 16:18, Chris Keating wrote: Royal http://www.nmm.ac.uk/researchers/research-areas-and-projects/warship-histor… corrected) I know that "released" is now apparently synonymous with "published" (in American English at least). RS needs published secondary sources, as we understand. Just to be clear, we expect this data to be acceptable as a source directly citable in articles? Yes. "Released" refers to the NMM's intellectual property. "Published" refers to the act of making it available to the public, as they have done on their website. It is also a secondary source, in the sense that it's information gathered by NMM staff (i.e. people who know what they are doing) from the original source documentation. It is clearly an _unusual_ secondary source in that we're much more used to working with books, website articles, etc than we are with 2,500-page PDF documents in this format, but previous discussions (on this list and on-wiki) have indicated that people think it is a good source for the purposes of WP:RS Obviously the community as a whole could in theory decide that it is not a reliable source, which would scupper the whole project and leave me looking very silly - but given the reaction so far from the community has been very positive.