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Richard Symonds

26 Jul 2012 26 Jul '12

10:53 a.m.

All, Just to let you know that you can now write "FREEPOST WIKIPEDIA", in capitals, on an envelope, and pop it in the post - it'll come to the office. There's no need for a stamp. This is mainly designed to make it easier for donors to contact us, but it will work fine for volunteers, too, obviously - although the charity will be paying for postage on anything you send, so try and keep the weight down if you can :-) All the best, Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk

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Thomas Dalton

26 Jul 26 Jul

11:26 a.m.

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Deryck Chan

11:30 a.m.

*cue discussion on trademark we should identify ourselves to the public with* On 26 July 2012 12:26, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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All, Just to let you know that you can now write "FREEPOST WIKIPEDIA", in capitals, on an envelope, and pop it in the post - it'll come to the

office.

There's no need for a stamp. This is mainly designed to make it easier for donors to contact us, but

will work fine for volunteers, too, obviously - although the charity

will be

paying for postage on anything you send, so try and keep the weight down

you can :-) All the best, Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

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Richard Symonds

11:45 a.m.

I love you guys, and I love this list :-) OK, so: it's Wikipedia with a P, because hardly anyone donates to anything except Wikipedia (although Commons gets about 3% of mentions in donors letters at a guess, and Wikinews/WikiSource maybe 1%), and the address is designed for non-Wikimedians who either want to learn, or want to donate. People writing to us will either know the difference between Wikimedia and Wikipedia (in which case they won't be confused), or they won't know the difference, in which case we should use the most well-known name.The name that sticks in their minds most is 'Wikipedia'! Having both is too expensive at the moment. It would cost an extra £200 +VAT to have a second one set up, which seems silly when it's only one character different. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 26 July 2012 12:30, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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*cue discussion on trademark we should identify ourselves to the public with* On 26 July 2012 12:26, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:

All, Just to let you know that you can now write "FREEPOST WIKIPEDIA", in capitals, on an envelope, and pop it in the post - it'll come to the

office.

There's no need for a stamp. This is mainly designed to make it easier for donors to contact us, but

will work fine for volunteers, too, obviously - although the charity

will be

paying for postage on anything you send, so try and keep the weight

down if

_______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Thomas Dalton

11:58 a.m.

On 26 July 2012 12:45, Richard Symonds <richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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I love you guys, and I love this list :-)

We love you too.

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OK, so: it's Wikipedia with a P, because hardly anyone donates to anything except Wikipedia (although Commons gets about 3% of mentions in donors letters at a guess, and Wikinews/WikiSource maybe 1%), and the address is designed for non-Wikimedians who either want to learn, or want to donate. People writing to us will either know the difference between Wikimedia and Wikipedia (in which case they won't be confused), or they won't know the difference, in which case we should use the most well-known name.The name that sticks in their minds most is 'Wikipedia'!

I know the difference, and I still get confused...

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Having both is too expensive at the moment. It would cost an extra £200 +VAT to have a second one set up, which seems silly when it's only one character different.

Does anyone know how likely the Royal Mail are to just deliver it anyway if it has one letter wrong? I know with regular domestic post they try very hard to deliver badly addressed mail, is the same true when you have a service like Freepost?

Andrew West

12:40 p.m.

On 26 July 2012 12:58, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Does anyone know how likely the Royal Mail are to just deliver it anyway if it has one letter wrong?

Well, there's only one way to find out -- send a letter to FREEPOST WIKIMEDIA and see what happens. And if it does arrive at the WMUK office they can refuse to pay for it as it's the wrong address. Andrew

Deryck Chan

1:36 p.m.

Considering that most organisations simply have a Freepost address which is a jumble of random letters, we've come very far! On 26 July 2012 12:45, Richard Symonds <richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk>wrote;wrote:

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*cue discussion on trademark we should identify ourselves to the public with* On 26 July 2012 12:26, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:

All, Just to let you know that you can now write "FREEPOST WIKIPEDIA", in capitals, on an envelope, and pop it in the post - it'll come to the

office.

There's no need for a stamp. This is mainly designed to make it easier for donors to contact us,

but it

will work fine for volunteers, too, obviously - although the charity

will be

paying for postage on anything you send, so try and keep the weight

down if

_______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

WereSpielChequers

1:46 p.m.

There is bound to be a Postcode for that Freepost address, and if you write to Wikimedia UK at that Postcode then I would be surprised if it was not delivered. WSC On 26 July 2012 14:36, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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*cue discussion on trademark we should identify ourselves to the public with* On 26 July 2012 12:26, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:

That sounds very cool. Wikipedia with a "p"? Is that likely to reduce or increase confusion compared with having Wikimedia? Is having both too expensives? (I have no idea what the split between fixed and unit costs are for freepost accounts.) On 26 July 2012 11:53, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > All, > > Just to let you know that you can now write "FREEPOST WIKIPEDIA", in > capitals, on an envelope, and pop it in the post - it'll come to the office. > There's no need for a stamp. > > This is mainly designed to make it easier for donors to contact us, but it > will work fine for volunteers, too, obviously - although the charity will be > paying for postage on anything you send, so try and keep the weight down if > you can :-) > > All the best, > > Richard Symonds > Wikimedia UK > 0207 065 0992 > Disclaimer viewable at > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer > Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

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Gordon Joly

1:11 p.m.

On 26/07/12 12:26, Thomas Dalton wrote:

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That sounds very cool. Wikipedia with a "p"? Is that likely to reduce or increase confusion compared with having Wikimedia? Is having both too expensives?

And having just changed the name at the AGM to "Wikimedia UK". Gordon

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