Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group - Wikimedia-l

3 Oct 2019

I don't see a problem with sending several representatives to the Wikimedia
Summit, instead of 1, as would be the case if there was only Wikimedia
Russia (that would be a Wikimedia Summit problem). But cells of Wikimedia
Russia or other national chapters voting for ASBS elections is a different
thing, as it unfairly duplicates the vote of the communities that follow
that strategy.

Paulo

Mārtiņš Bruņenieks &lt;martinsb(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu no dia quinta, 3/10/2019
à(s) 21:04:

...
  Hello!

 There are different aspects to this trend.
 In upcoming CEE Meeting in Belgrade there will be 9 people from different
 affiliates based in Russia. There are other examples you can explore in
 official participant list from other countries, too [1]

 As long as there is no system abuse, I see this as a valid way for Erzya
 language or different Albanian language communities in different countries
 to grow their capacity.
 It might not seem fair, but on the other hand it can seem unfair that in
 the past both large and small affiliates could send 2 representatives each.

  Mārtiņš

 [1]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2019/Participants/List

 On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:46 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
 paulosperneta(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

  Why isn't it a department of Wikimedia
Russia, if apparently it's
 basically a cell of Wikimedia Russia?

 It's a curious precedent.

 Paulo

 Asaf Bartov &lt;abartov(a)wikimedia.org&gt; escreveu no dia quinta, 3/10/2019
 à(s) 20:41:

  Ziko: Yes, it is about the major Russian city. 
And one of its listed
 contacts is the longstanding president of Wikimedia Russia itself.

 Philip: this is not an example of a large country being "split up",
 since Wikimedia Russia is still around, and was not broken up.  It is also
 not the first user group operating within Russia, nor even the first group
 with a geographic remit.[1]

    A.

 [1] e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don_Wikimedians_User_Group

 On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:34 PM Ziko van Dijk &lt;zvandijk(a)gmail.com&gt;
 wrote:

  Hello Philip,

 I was asking the same question - isn't there already a Wikimedia
 Rossiya -
 but I guess this is the User Group of Saint Petersburg in Florida (USA),
 not Sankt Peterburg in Russia.
 Oh wait... this IS about the city in Russia!

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group

 Kind regards
 Ziko

 Am Do., 3. Okt. 2019 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Philip Kopetzky <
 philip.kopetzky(a)gmail.com&gt;gt;:

 > Hi Kirill,
 >
 > so it seems like geographically large countries are being split up
 into
 > different user groups - do you think that this is a viable model for
 the
 > future or just happened because of certain circumstances within the
 Russian
 > community? Would your template allow a User Group from Rome, Paris,
 Munich
 > or Sydney for example?
 >
 > Best,
 > Philip
 >
 > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:20, Kirill Lokshin &lt;kirill.lokshin(a)gmail.com
 >
 > wrote:
 >
 > > Hi everyone!
 > >
 > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
 recognized
 > > [1] the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group [2] as a
 Wikimedia
 > User
 > > Group. The group aims to unite Wikimedians living in St.
 Petersburg, to
 > > support the development of content on topics related to St.
 Petersburg
 > > across different Wikimedia projects, to promote the Wikimedia
 projects
 > and
 > > movement in St. Petersburg, and to build partnerships between the
 > Wikimedia
 > > community and cultural, scientific, educational, and media
 institutions
 > in
 > > St. Petersburg.
 > >
 > > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
 > >
 > > Regards,
 > > Kirill Lokshin
 > > Chair, Affiliations Committee
 > >
 > > [1]
 > >
 >

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognit…
 > > [2]
 > >
 >
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
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