https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwellian The things that immediately spring to mind are: Big brother is watching you, All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others, Newspeak Cheers, P -----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of James Salsman Sent: Friday, 04 November 2016 7:19 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer) Katherine Maher wrote: Well, it's in the New York Times under her maiden name: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/22/world/threats-responses-surveillance-terr… "The Pentagon research agency that is exploring how to create a vast database of electronic transactions and analyze them for potential terrorist activity considered but rejected another surveillance idea: tagging Internet data with unique personal markers to make anonymous use of some parts of the Internet impossible.... "The plan, known as eDNA, called for developing a new version of the Internet that would include enclaves where it would be impossible to be anonymous while using the network.... "Darpa awarded a $60,000 contract to SRI International, a research concern based in Menlo Park, Calif., to investigate the concept. SRI then convened the workshop in August to evaluate its feasibility.... "The workshop was led by Mr. Blaze and Dr. Victoria Stavridou, an SRI computer scientist, one of those who had originally discussed the eDNA concept with Darpa officials.... "At one point, Mr. Blaze reported to the group that he had been ''fired'' by Dr. Stavridou, of SRI, from his appointed role of writing the report presenting that consensus. "In e-mail messages, several participants said they believed that Dr. Stavridou was hijacking the report and that the group's consensus would not be reported to Darpa.... "Dr. Stavridou told the other panelists, 'Darpa asked SRI to organize the meeting because they have a deep interest in technology for identifying network miscreants and revoking their network privileges.'...." Also I would like to know what "Orwellian philosophy" is http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01211002 _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7859 / Virus Database: 4664/13342 - Release Date: 11/03/16

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 10:19 PM, James Salsman &lt;jsalsman(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Orwell tells us of a language so crafted as not to allow the speakers to think "bad thoughts", thus preventing them from challenging the totalitarian nightmare of Oceania. This principle, although sinister when applied to human discourse, is quite benign and we argue beneficial when dealing with the design of complex artifacts such as real-time computing systems whose deployment has safety-critical implications.*" To the extent I understood (which is very limited, I only skimmed it), this is more of a vague philosophical point which in practice boils down to "keep the language simple". The technical part of the paper describes an extension of the classic precondition/postcondition system of program specification which adds timing information. It does not relate in any way to surveillance. (If you are further interested in Orwell's thoughts about the use of language in politics, Wikipedia has some good articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_and_the_English_Language )