Hello Ben,
If there are chapters that are not meeting the criteria proposed, in those cases the
AffCom may reach out to them to help fix the issue, stimulate the organization of
activities, fix governance issues, whatever that may be. Of course, failing to meet the
criteria doesn't mean immediate derecognition, that could only happen if a chapter
fails repetitively to meet the criteria and does not take measures suggested within a
timeframe established and agreed between all parts. Then the AffCom would recommend the
change of the status, which we hope not to need to do. It should never be like pushing a
"delete button"!
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From: "Ben Creasy" <ben(a)bencreasy.com>
To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation
criteria
Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2016 11:22 PM
Does the Affiliations Committee have a list of existing chapters which do
not meet the proposed criteria? I think we should at least get a sense for
that, and those chapters should be notified and be put on the path to
meeting standards or losing their status.
What's the harm in letting chapters which can't meet the proposed high
standards drop into user group status? This will also force the committee
and board to figure out reasonable requirements. I realize that chapters
have special privileges and the process would be something like a probation
period followed by a graceful revocation of privileges.
I'm not super knowledgeable about this topic, but I've heard that chapters
becoming inactive is a problem. The solution is to anticipate that and
create a process for handling chapter inactivity non-disruptively. What's
the current process?
On Aug 20, 2016 9:50 PM, "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
What harm is
avoided by eliminating the ambiguity you refer to, Pine?
One of the harms is that aspiring chapters don't know what standards we
should be aiming to meet, because the standards are vague. Another
harm is that the Affiliations Committee doesn't have clear criteria to
apply,
which means that decisions are likely to be more subjective and
inconsistent than the decisions would be if there was a more specific
set of criteria.
As I mentioned in my previous email, I feel that it's okay to have some
flexibility in the requirements, such as by saying "a chapter must meet
four of
the following six criteria" or "this particular requirement may be met in
one
or more of the following ways". But those flexible criteria should be
clearly
defined.
How is that damage ameliorated by, as you
suggest, re-classifying
a chapter as a user group?
I feel that this is a separate issue. There should be no privilege attached
to
already being a chapter. It is unfair to apply one set of criteria to
existing
chapters, and a much tighter set of criteria to aspiring chapters. Chapter
status should be linked with a substantial level of current or recent
activity
in Wikimedia.
Chapter activity levels may decrease for many reasons, some of which
are beyond their control, such as if a fire breaks out in their office, or
if an
especially strong community organizer leaves the country. If such things
happen and the activity level or membership level of the organization
decrease, it is reasonable (if not desirable) to have the organization,
which
now would resemble a user group rather than a chapter, actually be
categorized as a user group until the organization recovers. I would call
this
"truth in advertising". It's not comfortable, but it is the reality, and
it
would give the group a strong incentive to re-energize itself and return
its
levels of membership and activity to the levels that it once had, rather
than
allowing it to keep the privileges of chapter status with few of the
responsibilities and expectations.
Pine
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