i like both old as well Logo2.svg. :P :) OK let me go for old one +1 Regards netra On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Moksh Juneja <moksh.juneja(a)avignyata.com _______________________________________________ WikiConference-India mailing list WikiConference-India(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiconference-india

The old logo is SPELLED INCORRECTLY. For those who do not read Devanagri or just see it as a symbolic design it may be beautiful. But it is WRONG. It reads "chikri" or "vikri", not "wiki". See the spelling here http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Best, Shekhar On 09/27/2011 10:26 AM, Netra Parikh wrote: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/private/wikiconference-india/2011-Septe… http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiConference_India_Logo_2.svg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiConference_India_Logo_1.png > The original logo here, which reads "chikree" or "vikree" and > not "wiki": http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_Conference_India_logo.svg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_Conference_India_logo_%28with_d… > I agree this is very late in the day, but since the error was > detected, > confirmed, and the logo resubmitted for vote, 16 days have passed > without a clear decision. > Can we have a decision within 24 hours? Everyone please vote by > 12pm IST > tomorrow 27 September 2011 to adopt the revised logo or stay > with the > old one. > Thanks, > Shekhar > On 09/26/2011 04:57 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > > I am guessing you are Bombaybiologist? Tanvir asked me that > someone was > > changing the logo and if the organizer decided to change it. > You are > > citing some "long thread on this where nobody disagreed", > please cite a > > link. > > > Most of us here can read "Devnagari" script, but you can't go > about > > changing logos months into the event without consensus. I have no > > objections as long as everyone is aware and agrees first. > > > Please note that such actions will easily lead to a block for > you or > > anyone on Meta, and protection for the pages. > > > Regards > > > Theo > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Shekhar Krishnan > &lt;shekhar(a)mit.edu <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu> > > <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu>>> wrote: > > > I changed the logo on the main site today, but this was > rolled back with > > a question of whether it had been approved by Jayantha and > > User:Wikitanvir. > > > There has already been a long thread on this where nobody > disagreed, and > > all said that the spelling errors and mis-reading in > Devnagari must be > > fixex. I think we should close the discussion and adopt > the revised > > logos. The full set of logos, banners and icons are > uploaded here: > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiConference_India_2011_Banner.png > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiConference_India_2011_Icon.png > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiConference_India_Logo_2.svg > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiConference_India_Logo_1.png > > > I accept full blame for earlier proposing this flawed > design which read > > as "chikri" or "vikri", and had an incorrect matra for > "wiki" in > > Devnagari. I have worked with the designer to create > revised versions > > for all our purposes, from banners to icons to conference > shwag. > > > I urge that we adopt these *across* all sites, conference > as well as > > registration, and on all other banners. > > > The registration page is still using the old logo (they > should replace > > it with the banner image above) and the header icon on > the conference > > page still has the old logo (should be replaced with the > icon png > > above). > > > I'm not sure who's in-charge of the registration site and > the header, > > but am happy to work with them to provide graphics based > on the revised > > logo. > > > Best, > > > > Shekhar > > > > On 09/26/2011 12:25 AM, Jayanta Nath wrote: > > > We can discuss > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011 > > > or > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011/Logo > too!! > > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Jayanta Nath > > &lt;jayantanth(a)gmail.com <mailto:jayantanth@gmail.com> > <mailto:jayantanth@gmail.com <mailto:jayantanth@gmail.com>> > > > <mailto:jayantanth@gmail.com <mailto:jayantanth@gmail.com> > <mailto:jayantanth@gmail.com <mailto:jayantanth@gmail.com>>>> wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > This discussion should be held in Indian mailing list, > > because this > > > mailing is open for few people. > > > > > > > User:Bombayologist is changing the logo without firm open > > dicussion. > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Pradeep Mohandas > > > &lt;pradeep.mohandas(a)gmail.com > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com>> > > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> > > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com>>>> wrote: > > > > > hi, > > > > > I am not against changing the current logo because the it. > > > > > However, there should be, I think, a larger pool of > > options than > > > 2 before we select a new one? > > > > > warm regards, > > > Pradeep Mohandas > > > > > > > On 15 September 2011 07 <tel:2011%2007>:46, Arun > Ramarathnam > > > &lt;arunram25(a)gmail.com <mailto:arunram25@gmail.com> > <mailto:arunram25@gmail.com <mailto:arunram25@gmail.com>> > > <mailto:arunram25@gmail.com <mailto:arunram25@gmail.com> > <mailto:arunram25@gmail.com <mailto:arunram25@gmail.com>>>> wrote: > > > > > Pradeep, > > > > > If it is a technical mistake it is ok to change. > > > However only for future printing etc. > > > > > Given that this event in intended to happen > regularly it > > > helps to fix any glitches. > > > > > Regards > > > Arun > > > > > > > > > On 13-Sep-2011, at 4:56 PM, Pradeep Mohandas > > > &lt;pradeep.mohandas(a)gmail.com > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com>> > > > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> > > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com > <mailto:pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com>>>> wrote: > > > > >> hi, > > >> > > >> Just bumping up this email. There seems to > have been an > > >> error in the current logo - in terms of > spelling and it > > >> appearing differently. Shekhar had asked his > friend to > > >> correct the mistake. Question is whether the > change in > > >> logo needs to be adopted? > > >> > > >> The current logo has already been printed on > visiting > > >> cards and letter heads. Do we change the logo > now or let > > >> it be? > > >> > > >> warm regards, > > >> Pradeep > > >> > > >> On 10 September 2011 15 <tel:2011%2015>:32, > Shekhar > > Krishnan > > >> <<mailto:shekhar@mit.edu <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu> > > <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu > <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu>>>shekhar@mit.edu > <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu> <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu > <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu>> > > >> <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu> > <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu <mailto:shekhar@mit.edu>>>> wrote: > > >> > > >> Dear All: > > >> > > >> (Apologies for cross-posting, this thread was was > > decided > > >> to revise the > > >> Devanagari logo for WikiConference [2] to > > correct its > > >> spelling and make > > >> it more legible. > > >> > > >> Arvind Lodaya, the winning logo designer, > agreed to > > >> quickly make > > >> changes, which I have uploaded on his > behalf on > > >> Commons. See: > > >> > > >> > > < http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WikiConference_India_Lo… http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WikiConference_India_Lo… > > >> > > >> and > > >> > > >> > > < http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WikiConference_India_Lo… http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WikiConference_India_Lo… the vote > > with +1 > > >> or -1 so this may > > >> be approved by Monday 12 September. > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> > > >> > > >> Shekhar > > >> > > >> -- > > >> > > >> [1] > > >> > > < https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/private/wikiconference-india/2011-Septe… https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/private/wikiconference-india/2011-Septe… > > >> > > >> [2] > > >> > > < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_Conference_India_logo.svg> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_Conference_India_logo.svg wheredevelsdare(a)hotmail.com <mailto:wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com> > > <mailto:wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com > <mailto:wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com>> > > >> <mailto:wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com > <mailto:wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com> > > <mailto:wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com > <mailto:wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com>>> wrote: > > >> > Hiya, > > >> > > >> > With the deadline for submitting LOGO designs for > > >> WikiConference lapsing > > >> > today, we now request everyone to vote for the > > >> design they would like to > > >> > see as the logo of WikiConference India from the > > >> eight designs > > >> > submitted. *Deadline for voting is 2.30PM on 29 June > > >> 2011* (48 hours > > >> > from now). > > >> > > >> > You see all the designs and vote here: > > >> > > >> > > < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011#Logo> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011#Logo > > >> > > >> > Kind Regards, > > >> > User:AroundTheGlobe > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Wikimedia-in-mum mailing list > > >> > > >> <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org>>> Wikimedia-in-mum(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > >> <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org>>> > > >> > > >> > > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-mum> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-mum Wikimedia-in-mum(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > >> <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org>>> > > >> > > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-mum> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-mum > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Pradeep Mohandas > > >> How Pradeep uses email - > > >> <http://goo.gl/6v1I9>http://goo.gl/6v1I9 > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> WikiConference-India mailing list > > >> WikiConference-India(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > >> <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org>>> > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiconference-india > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > WikiConference-India mailing list > > > WikiConference-India(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org>>> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiconference-india > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Pradeep Mohandas > > > How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > WikiConference-India mailing list > > > WikiConference-India(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org>>> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiconference-india > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > With Warm Regards, > > > *Jayanta Nath* > > > Calcutta,West Bengal > > > Facebook :http://www.facebook.com/jayantanth > > > Wikipedia :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jayantanth > > > আসুন পাইরেসি মুক্ত ভারত গড়ি,সবাই মুক্ত সফ্‌টওয়ার ব্যবহার করি > O:-),অন্যকে > > > ব্যবহারে উৎসাহিত করি। > > > ______________________________ > > > > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > > wikimedia-in-wb(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-in-wb@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:wikimedia-in-wb@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-in-wb@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > > <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>> > > > wikipedia-bn(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org>>> > > > < https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-wb> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > With Warm Regards, > > > *Jayanta Nath* > > > Calcutta,West Bengal > > > Facebook :http://www.facebook.com/jayantanth > > > Wikipedia :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jayantanth > > > আসুন পাইরেসি মুক্ত ভারত গড়ি,সবাই মুক্ত সফ্‌টওয়ার ব্যবহার করি > O:-),অন্যকে > > ব্যবহারে > > > উৎসাহিত করি। > > > ______________________________ > > > > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > > wikimedia-in-wb(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-in-wb@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:wikimedia-in-wb@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-in-wb@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > > <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>> > > > wikipedia-bn(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikipedia-bn@lists.wikimedia.org>>> > > > < https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-wb> > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > WikiConference-India mailing list > > > WikiConference-India(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiconference-india > > > -- > > > Shekhar Krishnan > > 58/58A, Anand Bhavan > > 201, T.H. Kataria Marg (Lady Hardinge Road) > > Mahim, Mumbai 400016 <tel:400016>, India > > > http://heptanesia.net > > http://web.mit.edu/shekhar > > > _______________________________________________ > > WikiConference-India mailing list > > WikiConference-India(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org> > > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiconference-india > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WikiConference-India mailing list > > WikiConference-India(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiconference-india > -- > Shekhar Krishnan > 58/58A, Anand Bhavan > 201, T.H. 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________________________________ From: ganesh gajre &lt;ganeshgajre(a)gmail.com&gt; To: wheredevelsdare(a)hotmail.com Cc: Pradeep &lt;pradeep.mohandas(a)gmail.com&gt;om>; WikiConference India &lt;wikiconference-india(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;rg>; Wikipedia India Mailing List &lt;wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;rg>; Wikipedia Mumbai Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-in-mum(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;rg>; ramraosaheb(a)gmail.com; Amit Dhakulkar &lt;damitr(a)gmail.com&gt;om>; Rafikh Shaikh &lt;rafikh.sk(a)gmail.com&gt;om>; Nagarjuna G. &lt;nagarjun(a)gnowledge.org&gt;rg>; sudhanwa.com(a)gmail.com; Mandar Kulkarni &lt;mvkulkarni23(a)yahoo.co.uk&gt; Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011, 0:26 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [WikiConference-India 2011] Vote for the Conference Logo On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:42 PM, &lt;wheredevelsdare(a)hotmail.com&gt; wrote: The vote has taken place and this matter is now closed.  When we talk about Wikipedia we have rights to change if it's wrong because that is the freedom given by FSF community and which carried forward by Wikipedia Community. It doesn't matter if we got vote out for new logo, and other says the old logo is best... I openly like to keep the survey... For test, I just run a small survey in my office only 4 people, And people read it as "Chikree".  Is there anyone who reads Devnagari properly except those who vote for new logo? If your design creates the problem to read/ Understand  it by end user then what is the use of it. And I don't mind to read it as " विक्री" conference...  because the way discussion going for Secretarial post, even issues of logo, even participating debate...commanding one and above,  The motto of WIKI it's get into the Sale of WIKIPEDIA, especial India Community,  but definitely don't want to read it as "चिक्री" conference. I am sorry, I am too harsh for this but it's the fact.  I would like others to go through it once again and make the changes if possible. Run a survey wherever you work and get's the feedback I am sure everyone will say the same thing. Hope the readers understand what is the meaning of freedom and right to act. -- Ganesh (Dragger) Be a FOSSERS, use GNU/Linux

Dear All, I completly agree with Ganesh. There are more than 1 Bn people in India and most of them understand Devnagari either by use of Marathi, Hindi or some other languages. We had raised this point many times and looks like as if the old logo is so close to somebody's heart (even if it is wrong), it is not been allowed to change. My concern is that this type of voting was done some weeks back when the new design of logo was suggested, where is the result of that? When it clearly reveals the the old logo is Wrong and a common man reads as "Vikri" and "Chikri", why not to change. Is it going to cost millions of rs. to change or there is a wastage of millions dollars in this. Why the people are resisting so much to change. If your own first name is been drafted wrongly by someone by giving the reason of "flow of design" will you accept that? Tomorrow, due to some unforeseen things, if we need to change the date or venue for the wiki-conferecne, will you keep the same header and ask people to find the new date and new place as it is part of logo? I also tried in my office to read the logo. 60% people read that as VIKRI and 40% read that as CHIKRI. No body read that correctly. The main purpose of wiki-conferecne is to reach as many as people and get more & more new editors and new contributors, then if the new people of not understanding it, what impression they would be putting in there mind? I request all the people to think on this sensibly and change to new logo. With Regards, Mandar V. Kulkarni *From:* ganesh gajre &lt;ganeshgajre(a)gmail.com&gt; *To:* wheredevelsdare(a)hotmail.com *Cc:* Pradeep &lt;pradeep.mohandas(a)gmail.com&gt;om>; WikiConference India < wikiconference-india(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;gt;; Wikipedia India Mailing List < wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;gt;; Wikipedia Mumbai Mailing List < wikimedia-in-mum(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;gt;; ramraosaheb(a)gmail.com; Amit Dhakulkar &lt;damitr(a)gmail.com&gt;om>; Rafikh Shaikh &lt;rafikh.sk(a)gmail.com&gt;om>; Nagarjuna G. &lt;nagarjun(a)gnowledge.org&gt;rg>; sudhanwa.com(a)gmail.com; Mandar Kulkarni &lt;mvkulkarni23(a)yahoo.co.uk&gt; *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 September 2011, 0:26 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [WikiConference-India 2011] Vote for the Conference Logo On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:42 PM, &lt;wheredevelsdare(a)hotmail.com&gt; wrote: The vote has taken place and this matter is now closed. No more replies on this thread, please! When we talk about Wikipedia we have rights to change if it's wrong because that is the freedom given by FSF community and which carried forward by Wikipedia Community. It doesn't matter if we got vote out for new logo, and other says the old logo is best... I openly like to keep the survey... For test, I just run a small survey in my office only 4 people, And people read it as "Chikree". Is there anyone who reads Devnagari properly except those who vote for new logo? If your design creates the problem to read/ Understand it by end user then what is the use of it. And I don't mind to read it as " *विक्री*" conference... because the way discussion going for Secretarial post, even issues of logo, even participating debate...commanding one and above, The motto of WIKI it's get into the Sale of WIKIPEDIA, especial India Community, but definitely don't want to read it as "*चिक्री"* conference. I am sorry, I am too harsh for this but it's the fact. I would like others to go through it once again and make the changes if possible. Run a survey wherever you work and get's the feedback I am sure everyone will say the same thing. Hope the readers understand what is the meaning of freedom and right to act. Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:39:39 +0530 From: ganeshgajre(a)gmail.com To: pradeep.mohandas(a)gmail.com CC: wikiconference-india(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wikimedia-in-mum(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [WikiConference-India 2011] Vote for the Conference Logo I guess, We are going to the wrong direction. The current logo creating problem to understand what it means while reading it. I believe on "Simplicity is always beautiful when it can be understand by all." The new logo is simple but can understand easily. Because we are Wikipedians and we read hindi, marathi we feel it's OK...Logo says "WIKI" but the person who is not familiar to hindi, marathi wikipedia he reads it as "Vikree" or "Chikree". I will suggest to keep new logo. This is suggestion and would like if other members strongly think about it. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohandas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: hi, I think the decision is pretty clear with a lot more people going for the old logo. The decision is hence to stick with the current logo. Just for the sake of completion: 1. Stay with the old logo = 10 2. Change to new logo = 6 3. No clear indication given = 1 (Vishal - although we could include him in the change to new logo bloc as well as the old logo bloc) Let's call this discussion closed! 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