Re: [Wikimedia-in-en] Gandhi references

Dear Debanjan, Doing refs one at a time can be a disadvantage. Doing refs from beginning to end brings more suggestions and options to mind. See Ref 108 wikitext - <ref name="Chakrabarty">{{cite book|author=Bidyut Chakrabarty|title=Social and political thought of Mahatma Gandhi|url= http://books.google.com/books?id=4x34We-mY40C&pg=PA138|accessdate=25 January 2012|year=2006|publisher=Routledge|isbn=978-0-415-36096-8|page=138}} </ref> Very good compared to the one I made below using RefTag which is slightly better <ref name="Chakrabarty2006">{{cite book|last=Chakrabarty|first=Bidyut|title=Social and political thought of Mahatma Gandhi|url= http://books.google.com/books?id=4x34We-mY40C&pg=PA138|accessdate=25Jan… 2012|year=2006|publisher=Routledge|isbn=978-0-415-36096-8|page=138}}</ref> Mine is slightly better - the Harvard style refname allows multiple books by one author to be used and allows seperate refs for each. Also secondly, Surname first followed by comma followed by firstname is almost always preferred in GA/FA like this : author=Chakrabarty, Bidyut | or last=Chakrabarty | first=Bidyut | As regards Ref 109, whose wikitext is as follows - <ref>From Discussion with BG Kher and others, 15 August 1940. Gandhi's Wisdom Box (1942), edited by Dewan Ram Parkash, p. 67 also in Collected works of Mahatma Gandhi Vol. 79 (PDF), p. 122</ref> Now, if you read all the refs from beginning (in section "Notes") you will that refs 3 & 4 are also from Collected Works. So checkout the text & wikitext for one of those, say ref 3 : Ref 3 text: Gandhi, M. K. (1982) [10 November 1921]. "The Momentous Issue"<http://www.gandhiserve.org/cwmg/VOL025.PDF>025.PDF>. *Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi*. *25* (electronic ed.). New Delhi: Publications Division, Ministry of Information and Broadcasting, Govt. of India. pp. 76–78. Retrieved 11 January 2012. "*Complete civil disobedience is rebellion without the element of violence in it. An out and out civil resister simply ignores the authority of the state. He becomes an outlaw claiming to disregard every unmoral state law. ...In doing all this he never uses force and never resists force when it is used against him. In fact, he invites imprisonment and other uses of force against himself...*" Ref 3 wikitext : <ref name="CollectedWorks25">{{cite book |title=Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi|chapter=The Momentous Issue |last=Gandhi |first=M. K. |authorlink=<!--Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi-->|volume=25 |year=1982 |publisher=Publications Division, Ministry of Information and Broadcasting, Govt. of India|location=New Delhi|isbn= |edition=electronic |pages=76–78 |url= http://www.gandhiserve.org/cwmg/VOL025.PDF|quote=''Complete civil disobedience is rebellion without the element of violence in it. An out and out civil resister simply ignores the authority of the state. He becomes an outlaw claiming to disregard every unmoral state law. ...In doing all this he never uses force and never resists force when it is used against him. In fact, he invites imprisonment and other uses of force against himself...''|origyear=10 November 1921 |accessdate=11 January 2012}}</ref> Now, examine this carefully, I constructed it by hand: I choose to format it like a book using "cite book" template, not a web site in which case "cite web" is more suitable, or, as an online pdf document stored, in which case I would have used "citation". I added the usual fields, but I found from a previous reference a very good url of Gandhiserve.org. where each & every volume of Gandhi Collected Works can be accessed by just fiddling the urls. http://www.gandhiserve.org/cwmg/VOL025.PDF By changing 25 in the url to 79 we get the desired url for the new ref 109! In this case, since we can get open access to the volume 79, the Collected Works url is used and we get rid of Gandhi's Wisdom Box part of the reference. The new reference for 109 becomes : <ref name="CollectedWorks79">{{cite book |title=Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi|chapter= Discussion with BG Kher and others |last=Gandhi |first=M. K. |authorlink=<!--Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi-->|volume=79 |year=1980 |publisher=Publications Division, Ministry of Information and Broadcasting, Govt. of India|location=New Delhi|isbn= |edition=Electronic |pages=121-122 |url= http://www.gandhiserve.org/cwmg/VOL079.PDF|quote=|origyear=15 August 1940 |accessdate=26 January 2012}}</ref> Here, the information I got was from the following sources : * "chapter" is name of concerned document in the valley. * "origyear" is the date when the letter was actually sent, in this case 15 August 1940 * Edition=Electronic, why because this index of all Gandhiserve collected works volume, specifies that this should be the version of the book inreference : http://www.gandhiserve.org/cwmg/cwmg.html * "year" is the year of publication by Publications Division of Ministry of I&B, GOI). This I got by finding the Google Books page on Vol 79 of Collected Works : http://books.google.co.in/books/about/Collected_works.html?id=DYRDAAAAYAAJ&… With all these chhota mota inputs, I crafted the reference. GTG now, too sleepy, Happy Republic Day! Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:03 AM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay &lt;debastein(a)gmail.com