Sabahat, Of course the Wikipedia Chapter should become as skilled as possible at creating mirrors from dumps, which too few people know how to do (because it's so poorly documented) but I don't know whether anyone would expect to host projects. Provisioning, testing, and loading mirrors on hardware is the only emperically accurate way to benchmark it. The Foundation is too overloaded to effectively deal with the marketing barrage associated with exploring new implementations of Mediawiki services, so that's clearly a way to help even if we don't leave entire forks up for more than a few months at a time. Do you think there are projects we should host that the Foundation is unlikely to host? The digital divide is a symptom of income inequality, and I'm not sure what a Chapter could do to counter that kind of institutional bias. Should we add specific economic principles to the Values? Regards, James Salsman On May 5, 2010 4:05 AM, "Sabahat Ashraf/"iFaqeer <ashrafs(a)alum.rpi.edu> wrote: Does "implementing software and hardware systems...and holding events" cover projects? You know, members helping deploy, populate, administrate and manage wikis in and of the public interest? I guess I ask because I have spent much of my professional career as a writer/content producer for the tech industry and them folks usually don't consider content as part of software... Apologies if this is a newbie question that has been addressed and put to rest in the evolution of the text we're adopting. On the Values side, I would just advocate a more front-and-center place for a conscious effort to overcome what we call "Institutional Bias", but really is just gaps in information and perspectives (imbalance in content and opinions, if you will) that are the result of things like the digital divide and uneven access and contribution to media, both old and new. Heaven knows that's one of strongest motivations for my contribution to the Wikipedia and other projects. California seems like the ideal place home for efforts in that regard. My tuppence 'orth, Sabahat ('iFaqeer" on Wikimedia projects I am part of) --- Sabahat I Ashraf ("iFaqeer") iFaqeer @ Gmail/Gtalk, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, .com darwaish @ yahoo 415 881 7834 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:18 AM, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-california mailing list Wikimedia-california(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-california