Wysłane z mojego HTC ----- Reply message ----- Od: "Butch Bustria" <butch(a)wikimedia.org.ph> Do: "Asian Wikimedia Chapters coordination" <wikimedia-asia-chapters(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Temat: [Wikimedia-asia-chapters] Berlin Conference Data: niedz., kwi 8, 2012 20:21 Well, I understand that each chapters have their own preferences. Though the WLM was an initiative by some of our key officers, we dont shoot the idea down. Each of us in the Philippines always welcome good ideas as long as its well planned and its beneficial. We always disregard where it came from. Your projects are good too, all it takes is just understanding of it. We face challenge in getting active volunteers and for the first time go on nationwide projects and your chapter story is interesting to note. It has been nice to know our ASEAN sisters in the conference. Though we have differences, we have common interests and this interaction we are doing today (though some may consider not good conversation) is still good because were are now talking more than before. So this brings me to a conclusion that I will make a visit to Indonesia part of my medium-term wish list. :) --  Roman "Butch" Bustria Jr. Wikimedia Philippines Inc.  The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipients named. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments. Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Siska Doviana <siska.doviana(a)wikimedia.or.id> wrote: On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Butch Bustria <butch(a)wikimedia.org.ph> wrote: I would suggest that people stop rating :D FYI in 2007 when we haven't become a chapter yet or I'm not even sure I like to pursue one, *I* came to Taipei to learn about Wikimedia Taiwan via Wikimania and hope that they will take a role as our guidance, where we can learn from them. *to be honest I am still hoping now* *grin* We're not flying anyone until we understand what the need are and whether it suit to the training that we provided. Too expensive. Without a clear RoI (return of investment) it jeopardizing the *future* grant request even WMID track record. We *of course* will avoid that at all cost. Apsara only take off if we receive the grant. Which we haven't even asked for yet. Therefore it eliminates financial constraint, the grant will bore the expenses. However the grant will not bore the limited person time, since we realize it exist. If you have limited time, and will not be able to conduct project after the training (will be decided during assessment per communication between potential trainer/ trainee during identification of whether or not one need training for *three days* for example) - then although the money available, probably one is not the best person attending the training. We're aiming *the* interested and willing. Another example is if PH would like to conduct Wiki Loves Monument. By all mean, don't come to Indonesia, we never done that before :D nor interested to provide training for it. You'd probably best invite the Netherlanders - for example. If the Netherlanders are willing to come i.e to Phillipines with their own funding, asks Apsara to funded Bangladeshian or Indian or Korean to fly to Philipine to listen for the workshop and we'll send you the money. *shrug* That's it. -- Siska Doviana | Ketua Umum (Chair) 2011-2012 Wikimedia Indonesia Cell. +62 816 484 5052 ~~~~ Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan: http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-asia-chapters mailing list Wikimedia-asia-chapters(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters