Dear all:
On behalf of WIkimedia Hong Kong, i am glad to inform all the Asian parties
that our first Wikimedia Asia Meeting will be hold during
APRICOT-APAN.asia/2011 <http://apricot-apan.asia/>.
APRICOT (Asia Pacific Regional Interent Conference on Operational
Technologies) is
Asia Pacific's premier internet annual summit. It aims to provide a forum
for key Internet
builders in the region to learn from their peers and other leaders in the
the internet community
from around the world.
The conference is on 21-25 Feb 2011 in Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition
Centre.
The meeting will be listed in the open agenda and every attendees can join. The
meeting
has been notified to WMFoundation, and Kul will be the one who follows
the stuff
of the
meeting.
But at the first stage, we need to find out the aims of the meeting. Maybe
you guys want
start a Asia-wide project, then it will be the time for you guys to do it.
The point is we just
want to make the meeting more meaningful, rather than just meeting Asian
fellows.
For the sponsorship and scholarship of the meeting, we will discuss it at
the next stage.
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Best regards,
Morgan Chan
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Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
Dear Asian:
We need web designers to design and run the website of Wikimedia Asia
Project.
Any volunteer?
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Best regards,
Morgan Chan
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Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
Ok,
It seems like I can't appointed anyone until December, so you guys
stuck with me.
I remember one email reminding people new to the list, what this list
is, so I think it is only fair to give a heads up to people who are
new to me :-)
I have receive more than one reminder off list to be polite and my
answer to that is, I think, the whole Asian continent is polite, if
you found one female who is not polite in this list, I don't think it
will kill anyone.
I want to be critical, and as a matter of fact, if there are people
who don't like my attitude, I will feed them vegetables so they live
healthy and long because if people don't like you they will give you
honest feed back - and I'm looking forward to that. So we could fix
wrong move as soon as after it was made.
I will feed my ego for complimentary someplace else - preferably with money.
Now, back to the subject
For those of you who weren't familiar with the subject: WMID launched
a wikipedia writing competition for 10 universities and train 90
participants to write in Wikipedia.
Although the project report has not finished yet, I will share with
you behind the screen result that won't make it to report, since, like
a lot of Asian, my English is not very good when it come to telling
things that people won't like.
1. Will people write wikipedia if they get paid?
I paid three intern to write in wikipedia in their training month to
get familiar with how it works. None of them know how wikipedia works.
They received USD 165/ month which is a lot for university students
without the need to actually to be in the office. Over one month they
manage to have 6 articles, 3 complete one, and 3 stubs, only one
didn't get tag improvement by the community.
So I conclude that I won't even try to pay people to write to
wikipedia. I did that, it sucked.
So the answer to that: probably, but you won't have a good quality
article by forcing people to write, they will only do so to meet
quantity target, but not quality.
2. Will people write wikipedia if they are offered "other" incentive?
Yes. In this case, students, who, in natural setting won't have
anything to do with wikipedia, when introduce to the project, they
specially react to recognition, love the challenge - the competitive
environment and its limit - die trying conquering it, and all in all -
they LOVE to travel to Europe. In short, trip incentive work
wonderfully.
3. Did they return to wikipedia to socialize?
Before I answer that, the competition at first was launch because I
thought people don't contribute to wikipedia because they don't know
how, they are not bold enough to try, etc-etc. So it is interesting
when, they already know how, and becoming very good at it PLUS I
receive email messages from participants who pledge going to help the
"free knowledge effort" no matter what.
87 participants and 72 days later.
None of them return.
Well, there is one, but I remember I asked him, have you write
wikipedia before the competition? And he nods, I believe it was only a
change of user name for him.
So what went wrong? Funny enough, I don't even have to ask...
One participant wrote to me aftermath.
"From the information I gather, I think there's a lot of crazy people
in wikipedia, I probably would come back to write because I love
writing. But I definitely won't join the conversation."
I replied and said "interesting!" (not surprising though). Maybe if
the writer could gather less-crazy people, then probably the writer
would like to reconsider not joining the conversation, and add: let's
figure out a way to do that.
So that's outside opinion for internal community. What did the
community think about bringing in more people in?
Surprisingly, they are equally resistant! Well, I only ask one person,
not exactly a representative population (for 30 v.active user). Not
mentioning name here.
"Interesting result, I would like to try 1,000 spot competition next,
already have human resources to handle it."
"Having more new people could change the game."
"What game?"
"Rule of play"
And I go, OMG, they like their power. They like the idea keep going
abroad and become knowledgeable representative. More people mean more
competition. More people mean less power, and perhaps less respect?
from an already established community. I actually never thought of
that. Or maybe I'm asking the wrong person? Not really sure.
So there you go, just a random rant. Maybe didn't mean anything, but I
think it is worth sharing.
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Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia
Ph. +62 816 484 5052
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Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan:
http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
Dear all:
I created a page on meta for Wikimedia Asia Project.
I tried to put everything about Wikimedia Asia Project on it
and i hope it would be easier for new comers to follow what
is actually going on here.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_Project
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Best regards,
Morgan Chan
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Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
Dear all Asians,
Our Meet Up will hold at 7:30 PM - 8:00 PM tonight, the venue is not sure
yet,
but i know we will meet each other at the* *Gathering of people from
existing and potential chapters,
so don't worry that we will miss each other.
We only have 30 mins, i think it is even less time than we had in Berlin.
So I think i will make an Agenda and keep the things going quickly.
I will send it to the mailing list later.
So see you tonight! :-)
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Best regards,
Morgan Chan
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Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
I think we have to meet each other today
So how about we have dinner together? With your computer.
See you guy in Philharmonic at 1830 tonight?
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Best regards,
Morgan Chan
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Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
My local phone number is 514-214-329.
You can call me and now i am in the office.
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Best regards,
Morgan Chan
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Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
Hi all,
I am arrived Gdansk. Now I am sitting in the Philharmonic office.
Unfortunately, my luggage is lost. But it is fine.
If you guys want to have a chat or dinner with me, you can find me at the
office. :p
And i think our panelists should also gather together and have a discussion
about our session. :-)
See you in the office, guys.
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Best regards,
Morgan Chan
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Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
প্রিয় সহকর্মীবৃন্দ
আনন্দের সাথে আপনাদের জানাচ্ছি যে, আগামী ৮-১১ জুলাই পোল্যান্ডের, গিদানস্কে[০]
অনুষ্ঠিত হতে যাচ্ছে উইকিপিডিয়ানদের বার্ষিক সম্মেলন "উইকিম্যানিয়া ২০১০[১]"।
এবারের উইকিম্যানিয়াতে বাংলাদেশ থেকে আমি এবং নাসির খান সৈকত অংশগ্রহণ করছি।
সেখানে আমরা উইকিমিডিয়া বাংলাদেশের প্রতিনিধি হিসেবে অংশগ্রহণ করছি।
উইকিম্যানিয়া যোগ দেওয়ার লক্ষে আমরা আগামী ৭ই জুলাই পোল্যান্ডের উদ্দেশ্যে
রওয়ানা হবো। আপনাদের সকলের কাছে আমরা দোয়া প্রার্থী যেন আমরা সফল ভাবে সম্মেলন
শেষ করে দেশে ফিরতে পারি।
এছাড়াও আরও একটি সংবাদ জানাতে চাই, গত ৪ঠা জুলাই রাতে আমার সাথে উইকিপিডিয়ার
প্রতিষ্ঠাতা জিমি ওয়েল্সের সাথে বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়া এবং বাংলাদেশে উইকিপিডিয়া
কম্যুনিটি সংক্রান্ত বিভিন্ন বিষয়ে ভিডিও কনফারেন্সিংয়ের মাধ্যমে আলোচনা হয়েছে।
আমার ব্লগে এ সম্পর্কিত একটি ব্লগ আমি ইতিমধ্যে পোষ্ট করেছি। এ সম্পর্কে
বিস্তারিত ঐ ব্লগে জানতে পারবেন। ব্লগের লিঙ্কটি[৩] নিচে দেওয়া হল।
[০]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gda%C5%84sk
[১]http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/
[৩]http://wp.me/pcRF1-4g
ধন্যবাদান্তে,
বেলায়েত
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Belayet Hossain
http://www.facebook.com/bellayet
Knowledge is universal
...so share it.
Hillel____
If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
If I am only for myself, what am I?
If not now, when?