I fail to understand why every time the ESEAP or ASEAN countries are mentioned, Thailand,
as one of the more developed countries in the region is never on the list. Have I done
something to upset everybody? Is it because I was not at this year’s Asia meeting in
Montreal? Is it ONLY for representatives of established chapters? Are smaller initiatives
that have not reached Chapter status locked out?
Kudpung
On 22Aug, 2017, at 11:12, Gnangarra
<gnangarra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with doing a small conference first, I thought that given what is available as
venues in Indonesia that a 100 person event over two days all in one hotel(Like Berlin
2017) somewhere would be quite manageable. The target of 50 I thought would be too small
to be able to get a good cross section of participants from enough communities. As part of
this is going bigger the smaller the initial number the less able we will be to build
sufficient momentum for the next one. Also small size can have a negative effect of
being seen as an event for those privileged usual suspects.
On 22 August 2017 at 12:03, Biyanto Rebin <biyanto.rebin(a)wikimedia.or.id
<mailto:biyanto.rebin@wikimedia.or.id>> wrote:
Hello Gideon,
We expect to run ESEAP conference first as ESEAP representative in Wikimedia Conference
already discuss it before, so it should be not more than 50 participants, as we would like
to increase the community participants in ESEAP region. ESEAP region is also more
underrepresented in Wikimedia movements than other community. When we gather together in
conference, we miss out people from Brunei, Singapore, Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia, Timor
Leste even Vietnam as well as Indonesian and Australian.
That's the reason why we should try to do a small conference first, after that we can
do together a bigger conference such as Asian Conference. We can start to work with
another region and especially Indian community who have established a good event, such as
WikiConference India.
Is this reasonable for you?
Cheers,
2017-08-22 10:54 GMT+07:00 Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com
<mailto:gnangarra@gmail.com>>:
Kaya Ivonne,
I applaud your cautious approach but please could you look to say 100 participants as 50
will see too many people unable to be part of the event especially given the number of
communities and just the FB group that were talking last night about this had over 60
participants, I suspect that this mailing list also has more than 50.
Cheers
Gideon aka Gnangarra
On 22 August 2017 at 11:44, Ivonne Kristiani <ivonne.kristiani(a)wikimedia.or.id
<mailto:ivonne.kristiani@wikimedia.or.id>> wrote:
We would love to host Asian Conference, but considering that it will be the first time
for WMID to host such a huge regional conference and also taking into account the time
span and resources for preparing the conference, we prefer to start small and we cap the
participants to 50 people max, from ESEAP. Afterwards, we can discuss about the
possibility of hosting a bigger conference.
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2017-08-21 15:59 GMT+07:00 Roman Bustria Jr. <bustrias(a)gmail.com
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Hello,
Based on the composition of the meetup, interested participants go as far as Iran and the
Levant regions to the west, India, Bangladesh then Australia to the south. Even
communities in Eastern Russia are expressed interest to join.
If this will come to possibility, it will be the most diverse wikimedia regional
conference.
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On Aug 21, 2017 4:21 PM, "Ivonne Kristiani"
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Hello everyone,
Yes, there have been previous conversations regarding ESEAP (East and South East Asia
Pacific) regional conference and Wikimedia Indonesia has offered to support by becoming a
host to this event. WMID is still committed to hosting this next year. Our small team has
even write a proposed budget and form a core committee. The proposal writing team is
supposed to write the proposal grant and submit it around end of September or early
October.
Can the admin of this list please add Biyanto? Apparently he is not on the list, his
email is biyanto.rebin(a)wikimedia.or.id <mailto:biyanto.rebin@wikimedia.or.id>.
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2017-08-21 14:07 GMT+07:00 Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com
<mailto:gnangarra@gmail.com>>:
Please I'm not trying to take it away from Indonesia, just think its an important
event that we need to hold for our region and that we need to get on to it sooner if we
are to get funding for an event in 2018
There are a lot of hoops to jump through and the application for funding process as
understood from berlin notification and discussions is that at least 3 months for funding
discussion noting that things slow down over the december period, 3 months for scholarship
and call for papers.
Once we add to that planning, costing those little details we'll need for the fund
application thats putting us well into 2018., We dont want to conflict with Wikimania
there goes june to august, too close means people cant attend both.
We loose late march early april to Berlin though thats a great opportunity to get some
speakers and advice. we have two windows. left even starting today late April to early
June or August to October
Yes I acknowledge culturally I'm a little more pushy than most I do try to temper
that, sometimes I my english is difficult so please forgive me
On 21 August 2017 at 14:41, Tanweer Morshed <wiki.tanweer(a)gmail.com
<mailto:wiki.tanweer@gmail.com>> wrote:
Most of the participants at this year's Wikimania Asia meetup favored for Indonesia.
That's okay, but there's another point about hosting it in Australia.
Australia's visa policy might result in a reduced number of participation from Asian
communities, since that is not as generous as that of Indonesia. So this need to be kept
in mind.
On Sunday, August 20, 2017, Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com
<mailto:gnangarra@gmail.com>> wrote:
Australias offer is only if Indonesia dosnt want
to proceed, I was at the Berlin meetup where it was put forward and fully support
Indonesia hosting the event... What ever the out we do need to ensure we get something
happening for our communities locally soon as hosting a larger event in the region
apparently is needed now before a wikimania can be hosted
On 21 August 2017 at 11:42, Roman Bustria Jr. <bustrias(a)gmail.com
<mailto:bustrias@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
Based in the meetup minutes, there was an intent from Indonesia. But if Australia also
intent to host too then it is best that we plan this as early as possible as the 1 hour
meetup in Berlin and in Wikimania is too short.
Butch Bustria
PH/SG/MY
https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_meetup
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On Aug 21, 2017 9:48 AM, "Gnangarra" <gnangarra(a)gmail.com
<mailto:gnangarra@gmail.com>> wrote:
Australia is still happy to help, or even host
On 21 August 2017 at 09:45, cs <cs(a)edubkk.org <mailto:cs@edubkk.org>> wrote:
Keep me posted on the Asian regional conference.
Kudpung
On 21Aug, 2017, at 06:15, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)wikimedia.hk
<mailto:deryckchan@wikimedia.hk>> wrote:
Hello Asian Wikimedians,
If you're new to this mailing list, welcome! If you've been here since last year
or earlier, welcome back!
We had a meetup at Wikimania 2017 to talk about Asian Wikimedian collaboration in the
coming year. Notes of the meeting are here:
https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_meetup
<https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_meetup>
There's also a category for photos taken during this event:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Asia_meetup_at_Wikima…
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Asia_meetup_at_Wikimania_2017>
According to the meeting, there will be Wikimedia Asia Month as usual. We're also
trying to do a Wikimedia Asia regional conference, likely in Indonesia. The various
organisers will get make announcements on this mailing list in due course.
Great to meet you all!
Deryck
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