--- Harry Smith <lance6wins(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Copied from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Violence_against_Israelis#Lists
Where it should stay, but nevermind; I'll explain here
but request that any further discussion go to the
appropriate talk page.
(posted here so I don't have to repeat myself
five
times) I dispute the factual accuracy of the various
terrorism against Israel in {year} pages because
sources for the reports therein are (apart from the
word of a single Wikipedian) fragmentary or
non-existent. I will happily withdraw the accuracy
disputes when each item on each list is annotated
properly. �No-One Jones 10:37, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Mirv has added the "factually disputed" tag to this
set of articles without disputing any individual
item.
Well, here are some examples, which I'll copy to the
talk page:
* August 23: A female motorist was wounded by large
rocks thrown at her vehicle while traveling late at
night. ([[Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
2004]])
Here we have no name for the victim, no location for
the attack, and no word other than that of the author
(whose political views and agenda are well-known to
anyone who watches Wikipedia's articles on the Middle
East) on who was responsible. Without a source we
don't even know that if the item is anything other
than word-of-mouth rumour.
*April 28: An Israeli woman stabbed to death in
Karmiel, Galilee. ([[Terrorism against Israel in
2001]])
This item at least has a location, but the rest of it
suffers from the same vagueness: no name, no way to
confirm that this even happened, and no way to tell if
it even belongs in the list.
Are we to annotate each item in each article to meet
this criteria?
Are we to apply this level of
citation
to a set of articles? Is this level of citation to
apply to Violence against Israelis alone?
In controversial and politically-charged articles,
citations are of paramount importance but are all too
often omitted. The set of articles in question is just
a particularly egregious example of the problem.
I would like the disputed tags remove till a
factually
inaccuracy is found. At that point I would like the
inaccuracy corrected, so that the tag would not
apply.
And I would like to see the disputed tags stay.
[[Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute]] says the following:
*begin quote*
The accuracy of an article may be a cause for concern
if:
* It contains a lot of unlikely information, without
providing references.
* It contains information which is particularly
difficult to verify.
* In, for example, a long list, some errors have been
found, suggesting that the list as a whole may need
further checking.
* It has been written (or edited) by a user who is
known to write inaccurately on the topic.
*end quote*
Reasons #2 and #4 (and perhaps #1) apply to the lists
in question, which I think is ample reason to keep the
disputes in place.
--Charles Podles ([[en:User:Mirv]])
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