What if any zealot realises an objection to any reference whatever to Mr X being Gay,
having children
outside of marriage, being of non-caucasion marriage, having "***-challenged"
outsode of marriage,
etc.
This is a problem that wikipedia can and does have.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christiaan Briggs" <christiaan(a)last-straw.net>
To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Political correctness vs NPOV
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:01:09 +0000
Yes, an ambiguous term, like "discrimination." Many terms that are
equated mostly with negative connotations (mostly for political
reasons) are in fact neutral terms. Hence we have negative and
positive discrimination for instance.
Christiaan
On 24 Feb 2005, at 7:48 pm, Ray Saintonge wrote:
That effectively converts the term into an
ambiguous one. We may
easily agree that the three issues that you list have more
positive than negative connotations, but the person who believes
that trees cause pollution will see the political correctness of
the environmentalist as a negative. This does not bode well for
any menaingful use of the term.
Ec
Christiaan Briggs wrote:
> Political correctness may often be used as a pejorative term but
> it actually has positive connotations as well as the negative
> that Ray has pointed out. Political correctness has been used
> for all sorts of issues, e.g. civil rights movement, womens
> rights, and the environment to name a few. In this sense it is
> not always something to be "overcome" but encouraged in some
> instances.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 24 Feb 2005, at 6:19 pm, Ray Saintonge wrote:
>
>> Arno M wrote:
>>
>>> Just out of curiosity - does Political correctness apply as
>>> NPOV or as an ideology as described below?
>>
>> Political correctness is independent of the ideology it
>> supports. It can attach to any ideology. It will generally
>> involve supporting the "right" views as they prevail in the
>> society out of fear of being seen as different. Sometimes the
>> penalty for not being politically correct may be social
>> ostracism; in other circumstances, such as in Nazi Germany, the
>> penalties could be far more severe. In the United States
>> supporting the troops in Iraq is a matter of political
>> correctness.
>>
>> Thus I would see political correctness as neither NPOV nor an
>> ideology. At the same time practitioners of political
>> correctness have a personal need to believe that their actions
>> express a NPOV, something which they can easily confirm in the
>> positive feedback loop of their own community. Overcoming
>> political correctness requires both insight and courage.
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