Starting a sentence with a capital letter isn't. Finishing with a full stop is sort of seen as obligatory, while people do tend to think that verbs are a good idea. Yet I was told yesterday of an article found by a contributor that used commas for full stops, full stops for commas and didn't use a single capital letter. Oh and wrote an entire history article in the present tense. Those things aren't "very subjective", they are elementary. The article, BTW was very good. All it needed was correction. But apparently because it was on an obscure historical fact it never was looked at and remained un-proofed for months. The person who found it didn't have time to fix it, forgot about it then weeks later remembered it. It would have been handier if, had they no time themselves, they could have simply put it on a special list where whomever had the time could have fixed it. That way, an article with good content would have become a good article to read, doing justice to the good work done by someone who simply was not fluent in english. We may see them as such, but a user who knows nothing of wikipedia and finds an article through google will presume it is /the/ final text in an encyclopædia, not some draft. I am not criticising sub-Brilliant Prose. I am pointing out that we /do/ have articles that aren't prose at all. There are users who want to contribute but need more help than most in terms of being able to express their knowledge. We need a system that can help them express their knowledge where they themselves lack the linguistic skills to do so. (I know if I was contributing to French wiki I would be out of my depth linguistically. I would welcome being able to put my French article onto a special page with the message - this may need to be proofread because my french may not be 100% accurate.) JT _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail