On 07/04/04 16:21, Fred Bauder wrote:
So hate speech is a false generalization about an
ethnic group, religious or
political orientation or other identifiable group which tends to produce a
change in behavior that is extremely unfavorable to that group. Calculated
intention is an aggravation of the offense but not necessary.
"which tends to produce a change in behaviour" is an ambiguity you could
drive a truck through.
This is still coming down to "I know it when I see it" and is not suitable
material for a policy. e.g. I think a lot of your opinions on left-wingers
are *wrong*, but I certainly wouldn't call them *hate speech*. But I'm
pretty sure others here would.
In dealing with the case we're actually talking about, i.e. WHEELER, what
about this case is not amenable to the current dispute resolution process?
The AC is quite slow so far, but has dealt properly so far with cases
brought against egregiously offensive users (MNH, Irismeister, Paul Vogel).
I completely fail to see why an RFM and then if necessary an RFA can't be
brought against WHEELER. Based on his obnoxiousness so far, I could write it
myself if I could be bothered. I shouldn't have to, though, because anyone
else sufficiently concerned to flood wikien-l with messages about his "hate
speech" should have the energy to proceed using the tools in place.
This is a single case. I have PROFOUND qualms about making new policy based
on a single case that should be susceptible to the tools we already have in
place.
To those who have been writing to Wikipedia advocating that WHEELER be
thrown off for his egregious offensiveness: please at least attempt using
the tools that are already to hand.
- d.