Point of information. I can see the block log but not where this guy is
unblocked. Where do you look for that?
Fred
From: Rick <giantsrick13(a)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 11:57:17 -0700 (PDT)
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Blocking policy
Yep. The vandals have won. Guanaco is repeatedly unblocking a vandal who
used an offensive term because I didn't give him a warning. To me, entering
the term "faggot" into an article would be sufficient grounds for blocking,
but to Guanaco, we're supposed to allow it because it was the first time.
Well, great, how many articles do we need to have the word "faggot" in
because it was just the first time? How many pages do we need to have
vandalized because a sysop isn't allowed to do his or her job?
Sorry, but I will continue to do what needs to be done, and I hope, Heph,
that you will, too.
RickK
John Robinson <john(a)freeq.com> wrote:
So let me see if I have this straight.
As long as a user holds strictly to written policy, he/she may cause as much
disruption, damage and hell as possible, and community consensus on a matter
is secondary to ill-thought-out and often unenforced legalistic jargon.
Does that pretty much sum it up?
-Hephaestos
A Wikipedia administrator needs to be thoroughly familiar with those parts
of Wikipedia policy they chose to deploy. Many of us never block anybody.
Those who do need to know what is permitted and what is not. That is laid
out on the page [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy]]. What the arbitration
committee is trying to do is to craft a remedy for those instances where
administrators are making up their own policy, perhaps to some extent in
reliance on community consensus but nevertheless expanding their actions
beyond those set forth in blocking policy. Certain parts of that policy are
somewhat ambiguous but it is a limited policy which permits blocks only in
certain cases. Not in every case where it "feels right" or in every case
where "something has to be done".
Fred
From: Rick <giantsrick13(a)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 23:04:58 -0700 (PDT)
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Blocking policy
This "rule" requires sysops to have to have all of the policy pages
available at hand. Fine. Then give me a table of contents.
RickK
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