On 17 April 2010 13:52, Eugene van der Pijll <eugene(a)vanderpijll.nl> wrote:
David Gerard schreef:
> Clay Shirky was right: CZ collapsed under the
weight of its own bureaucracy:
>
http://many.corante.com/archives/2006/09/18/larry_sanger_citizendium_and_th…
Clay Shirky was wrong. He focussed on one part of the
CZ hierarchy: the
experts, and the amount of overhead that trying to recognize expertise would
cause. But there was no overhead, because experts never came to CZ.
He was right, I think, in noting that the bureaucracy was the problem.
The expert procedure was symptomatic of the dysfunctional attitude.
Surely Wikipedia should have taught us that you can't cure bureacracy
with more bureacracy.
> Wikipedia, and its community and bureaucracy,
sucks in oh so many
> ways. But it does in fact work and produce something people find
> useful.
Let's not forget that CZ also has produced
content. And the single best
decision Larry made was to put a CC license on that content, so that
that content is still useful. As long as there are people writing for
CZ, WP (and therefore humankind :-) profits.
This is, of course, true.
The CZ community needs to say "OK, we failed. What now?"
- d.