On 7/6/05, Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> wrote:
JAY JG wrote:
As soon as you argue that there is *any* reason to restrict these
powers, all your arguments about Wikipedia "assume good faith"
principles fly out the window. Now what you're really arguing is not
that these restrictions violate Wikipedia principles, but that in your
opinion the bar for admins is set too high; that's an entirely different
argument.
I don't agree that it's an entirely different argument. I think people
are acting in an un-wiki way precisely because the bar is set too high.
Having a low bar to entry is precisely the wiki principle.
I just wanted to interject a thought here: if Wikipedia adminship is a
virtuous circle, where admins continuously encourage each other to
more and more polite behavior, more welcoming, and more civility,
rather than excusing occasional hostility, anger, and newbie biting, I
wouldn't care if the bar was just barely above the floor. As it is
now, we have some improvements to make, only because, like it or not,
admins are the "official face" of Wikipedia to the general editing
public.
We already have the 'edit bar' on the floor, anyone can step right
over. It works pretty well that way. The 'admin bar' can be right
next to it as far as I'm concerned, if people really embrace the "good
attitude" concept behind the project.
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Michael Turley
User:Unfocused