He hasn't been complaining about the presentation of the issue in the
encyclopedia, but about the stances and conduct of individuals (as he views
it) outside the editorial realm.
The reason many here are dismissive is not that these claims are or aren't
without merit, but that they are irrelevant to the aim or the project, which
is not to resolve who gets how much glory or criticism, but to write neutral
encyclopedic content pages in a collaborative manner and leave other issues
outside the door - a goal which renders the entire issue largely pointless
to many experienced editors, unless some actual mis-balancing of an actual
encyclopedia article is in the frame.
FT2
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Ken Arromdee <arromdee(a)rahul.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, James Farrar wrote:
> 3. Is debate about Sanger's and
Wales's respective cofounder/founder
claims
regarding
Wikipedia a worthwhile endeavor?
Not here. It doesn't help us develop and
improve the English Wikipedia.
I've found the "to improve Wikipedia" clause in various rules to be an odd
loophole. Usually it gets abused in BLP and privacy discussions: "that
helps
the individual named in the BLP but doesn't improve the encyclopedia". The
idea that we must improve the encyclopedia is *not* a blanket excuse to
avoid
our responsibilities to get things correct or not to cause harm.
In fact, this is almost the same as the BLP and privacy abuses. Sanger is
a
particular named individual that Wikipedia is making claims about. He says
the claims are wrong. It's up to us to get them right, whether it
"improves
the encyclopedia" or not--and if getting them right doesn't improve the
encyclopedia, what are we doing making *any* claims about *anyone's*
founder status?
(Moreover, Sanger has pointed to particular things he claims aren't true,
above and beyond the founder/cofounder issue.)
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